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   BillHartmann | Oct 29, 2007 09:03pm | #1

   http://www.phenoseal.com/prod_doesitall.html

   Phenoseal is just a caulk.

   Locally Lowes has it.

   My guess is that you did not get the surface clean enough.

   I would start of using Lift-Off caulk remover (Lowes as it near the solvents and paint strippers). Work it all with the stiff toothbrush, or similar, into all of joints.

   Then repeat with white vinegar.

   Then repeat with rubbing alchol.

   Then make sure that it is dry and apply new caulk.

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   FastEddie | Oct 29, 2007 11:02pm | #2

   I agree with Bill.  if the new caulk is pulling off in a ribbon, then it did not adhere properly to the sink and counter.  Not much sticks to silicone caulk, so there's a good chance you did not get a good clean surface.  I used the green caulk remover once, and it did a pretty good job.

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   DanH | Oct 29, 2007 11:10pm | #3

   Standard Phenoseal is a petroleum-based (and ####-colored) caulk/adhesive that's traditionally used in boats. I'm a little surprised that it would be used for this duty, but I suppose maybe it's "traditional". It'll adhere to your hands and anything else you get it on with ease, but I'm guessing it doesn't adhere well where silicone has previously been used.

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   BillHartmann | Oct 29, 2007 11:27pm | #4

   You must have it confused with something else.http://www.phenoseal.com/prod_doesitall.html" Phenoseal Vinyl Adhesive Caulk is a versatile all-purpose caulk that is perfect for almost any job. It truly does it all - BONDS, CAULKS & SEALS. You can use it as a caulk to seal gaps or as an adhesive to bond materials. It is a caulk and glue in one!Phenoseal Vinyl Adhesive Caulk is easy to apply. It has a mild, pleasant odor and cleans up easily with soap and water. Cured caulk is mildew resistant. It is fast-drying and can be painted with latex and oil-based paint. "And it comes in 8 colors.http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=2001&familyName=Phenoseal+Adhesive+Caulk"Phenoseal clear is a vinyl adhesive that is not intended for marine use, but is mildew-resistant and very water-resistant. Excellent for indoor bathroom and kitchen applications."Jamestown is a distributor for marine products and also a number of weather resistant products that builders also like such as SS hardware and 3M marine sealants..
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   RosaSharon | Oct 30, 2007 12:47am | #5

   http://www.phenoseal.com/prod_doesitall.html

    

   This is the very stuff I used.  I honestly thought I had done a good job of scrubbing, but I just went down and checked, and the sides of the sink where there was less crud built up seem to be doing just fine.

   Thanks for the responses, guys. back to the drawing board. :(

   How long to you all recommend I let it dry after I do the cleaning? and also after I do the re-caulking, how long should I let it set? I really don't feel like making having to do this again.

   TIA - you guys rock!

    

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   DanH | Oct 30, 2007 12:51am | #6

   Real Phenoseal (which I suppose they no longer make, just like Masonite no longer makes Masonite) is a material with the color and consistency of baby poo, only worse smelling.
   If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader

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   RosaSharon | Oct 30, 2007 01:06am | #7

   Something actually smells worse than baby poo, Dan?

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   BillHartmann | Oct 30, 2007 01:12am | #8

   I have not used it for an application like this.Not really sure that it is the best. For this.Is the caulk under water if you fill the sink with water?My guess is that you should let it set for 24 hours before using it where water could splash on it.But for any htat is under water for more than a minute or two I would wait several days.You might find more details in the tech bulitenshttp://www.phenoseal.com/support_library.htmlAre call tech support.http://www.phenoseal.com/support.html
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