I’m building a window seat based on an article in FHB #158. My problem has always been with the small brass screws that come with a piano hinge or something else that reqquires screwing a small brass screw into something like oak.
Is there some trick to screw those small screws in without ruining the finish/look of the brass screw.
Or are carpenters using their own screws rather than use the screws that come with the packaging
it seem like a TORX screw would be alot better
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predrill with a Vix bit or the like....
definitely bring yur own screws...
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Or, predrill, then run a steel screw in, remove it, install the brass screw. Slow, but a lot faster than dealing with a bunch of stripped brass screw heads or a screw with the head torqued off.
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The problem with those little screws is that the cone of screw head hits the wood before the rest of the head hits the metal. You have to screw it very hard to get the head to hit the metal, and often it strips or breaks. The solution is to drill your pilot holes, and then hit each one with a countersink. You can either move the hinge out of the way, or countersink the wood with the hinge in place.
Also, make sure you have the right size Phillips bit. The small screws don't leave a lot of room for error in bit size.
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always amazed at other carps that think all screws are #2.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
They're not? (G)Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Awww, everbuddy knows that Piffen screws are #1SamT
my number one favorite screws are actually #1 Pif's.
use them lot's for double top secret cab installs.
pretty sure from Rocklers.
have 1/2" ... 5/8th" ... 3/4" and 1".
look just like little tiny Pif screws ...
but ya can't snap them little heads off.
the smaller ones are #1 square drive.
best part is the Pif screw designed threads ...
little bugger bite into hardwood trim great.
use them alot for "double back screwing" prefinished crown to the cab when I have open space above ... no exposed fasteners ... variable adjustment.
Jeff
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=2205 ???SamT
And the advantage of those is that they're a lot easier to hammer in than regular wood screws (which don't seem too well designed for hammering at all).
If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader
Also a little rub of candle wax helps with the screw going in, if you didn't run a steel screw in first, and are just following a VIX bit ( which I ALWAYS use for hinges).
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It's a good excuse to get an impact driver...and Dri-Coat the screws. wax can cause some tough finishing problems.
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I use my own, usually #4 x 1/2" that take a #0 square drive tip, like these...buic
http://www.mcfeelys.com/cut-thread-square