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pine flooring?

SThomas | Posted in General Discussion on October 22, 2004 02:05am

i have a client in brooklyn, ny, who has (what i believe are) pine floors with four-inch exposure. she would like to refloor her bedroom with the same material; i’ve never put down a pine floor, only maple, and don’t even know where i might get the stuff or if anyone still installs pine floors….

can anyone out there help me out?

thanks much.

stephen

 

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    coonass | Oct 22, 2004 02:25am | #1

    stephen,
    I do more pine flooring than oak or maple. Just finished 2000' of 8-10". Most of what we install is resaw heart longleaf but some yellow. I would suspect that your foor would be white pine. Google on pine floor suppliers in NY and you should find some resawn.

    KK

    1. SThomas | Oct 22, 2004 02:32am | #2

      kk--thanks VERY much....

      forgive me, but....is it tongue and groove? are there any secrets i need to know before embarking on this or is installation fairly straightforward?

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        coonass | Oct 22, 2004 02:45am | #3

        stephen,
        It installs just like maple. I think the 4" would be t&g. You just need to match the old floor or get customer approval for something close. This stuff that I install ain't cheap. Got a deal on the last floor at $5 a foot but it can be double that.KK

        1. SThomas | Oct 22, 2004 02:47am | #4

          kk--again, my thanks. and you anticipated my next question. five bucks a linear foot?

          1. Piffin | Oct 22, 2004 03:15am | #5

            Good clear antique heart pine can easily run ten bucks a square foot for material only.Southern yellow pine can be found for something like 2.49/sq ftWide white pine board flooring might be all over the map on pricing, edpending on 'character knots', width, etc.Can you get a digital photo of it posted to identify the type of wood?
             

             

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          2. SThomas | Oct 22, 2004 03:05pm | #6

            piffin--post a digital photo? i'm sorry, but that assumes way too much intelligence on my part.

            suffice to say, i think cost will be the final determining factor, that if i can find something in the $8/square foot range, it will have to do, regardless of how closely it matches the existing. my client is one of those wonderful, brooklyn eccentrics (books EVERYwhere, photos from a life well lived on every square inch of wall, cats running rampant) who isn't all that concerned with the precise details....

            stephen

          3. Piffin | Oct 24, 2004 05:03pm | #7

            let's try it this way then, Here are a couple of verying grades of heart Pine flooring. Does yours match this? 

             

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          4. SThomas | Oct 24, 2004 05:20pm | #8

            piffin--indeed, i'm afraid the floor i'm replacing almost exactly matches these pictures. 'afraid' because i'm dead certain my client won't want to pay the $12-$13/square foot price i've located around here. i'm guessing she'll just have to make do with white pine plank(ing) flooring.

            thanks again.

            stephen

          5. Piffin | Oct 24, 2004 05:29pm | #9

            Look for southern yellow pine instead of white. It is harder and very cost effective and can be stained to match the wider patern in the fiorst photo which is onmy own house with culls from the other one which required clear.

            Or look for Clear verticle grain fir which looks much like the second photo. 

             

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          6. Schelling | Oct 24, 2004 05:34pm | #10

            Do not use white pine for flooring unless you want to paint it. It is too soft. My in-laws had a clear finish that would break down within a year with modest traffic. After refinishing it twice in five years they had to replace it.  For about the same price you can buy southern yellow pine (not clear heart antique) which will be very serviceable and will hold a clear finish for a reasonable length of time.

          7. SThomas | Oct 24, 2004 05:52pm | #11

            gentlemen--sound advice. i had a nagging suspicion deep in my head that white wasn't the way to go...

            stephen

  2. andybuildz | Oct 24, 2004 07:16pm | #12

    stephen

              I'm on the north shore of LI (Cold Spring Harbor) in a circa:1680 house.

    I did the living room a buncha months ago with wide plank eastern pine.

    edges are square....Looks awesome!!!!

    I ordered from a different company from Vermont another million miles of the same stuff to do the rest of the entire house.

    USing rose head nails to face nail em'

    I don't think its really fair to say why I'm switching companies(mills) here on BT so if you want to Email or call me (631 659-3007) I'll tell you why.

    You live close enough so if you want to see what I've already installed and see the tremendous amt of flooring sitting in bndls here you're more than welcome to come by.

    Actually, I wish I could have done that before my first order.

    Kind of hard to find that stuff installed here on LI so.........

    None of my floor suppliers want to deal in it for what I think are obvious reasons.

    Mike Smith and Shglaw and family were here this weekend......ask them what they thought without a non partisan view point....lol

    Be floored

    andy

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    1. Piffin | Oct 24, 2004 08:43pm | #13

      Wide white pine is appropriate in the right house, but this guy wanted to be matching closely what is already there. 

       

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      1. SThomas | Oct 25, 2004 03:18pm | #14

        andy--piffin is correct; if at all possible, i'd like to ry to match the existing floors in this old brooklyn apartment. however, to your point, if the cost is prohibitive to match, then i'm gonna go with the more economical alternative, looks bedamned.

        so you've not had much trouble with the white, though? not too too soft??

        and non-partisan? that's not easy for me!

        stephen

        1. andybuildz | Oct 25, 2004 03:34pm | #15

          Yeh

          It is soft but as they say.its what gives it charater....my whole house was/is pine but I spose over 300 yrs ago the pine was harder it seems.

          Once again...if you need to see it in person give me a call.

          Be well

          andyThe secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!

          http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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