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   MarkH128 | Dec 15, 2002 02:28am | #1

   That stuff really sticks, but I have had things slide around or fall off if not secured properly until it cures, like a soap dish that fell into the tub and broke off a corner.

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   Novy | Dec 15, 2002 02:49am | #3

   Quick tip here

   Whatever the adhesive or the situation this is a great place for hotmelt glue as it will hold your fixture in place untill the proper adhesive curesOn An Island By The SEA

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   MarkH128 | Dec 15, 2002 02:55am | #4

   Thanks for the tip. I used masking tape which was not up to the job. By the way, the original question on the pl-400: it will hold tile very well, and is recommended for that purpose.  Where is that hot melt gun when you need it anyway?...

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   Novy | Dec 15, 2002 04:59am | #8

   Mark,

    Right or wrong I have been advised x ceramics suppliers that pure silicone is the best accessory adhesive

   I mean stuff like soap dishes IE: Glazed to kilned

   On An Island By The SEA

   Edited 12/14/2002 9:04:32 PM ET by NOVY_7

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   andybuildz | Dec 15, 2002 05:41am | #9

   Novy

         Hot melt glue? Do you mean just a hot glue gun or that newish $100 glue gun?

      I just wonder why one wouldnt use thinset.

   aOne works on oneself, always. That's the greatest gift you can give to community because the more you extricate your mind from that which defines separateness, that defines community. The first thing is to become community. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   Novy | Dec 15, 2002 05:47am | #10

   Andy,

    I mean just #### old hot melt to keep the piece in place until the appropriate adhesive sets IE: A dab or two amongst the correct adhesiveOn An Island By The SEA

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   guill | Dec 15, 2002 06:49am | #11

   I use adhesive frequently to bond tile on walls instead of mastic and have not had any problems.

   PL-400 is some good stuff. I am in the process of building an ICF house for my family. I did not use the ICF below grade and when I set the ICF block I glued one as a test to the concrete. I had to rip it off. So I set my block with a 2x4 against the block on the inside and glued the outside. I did not have one problem when we poured the walls. PL-400 is foam compatiable by the way.

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   Novy | Dec 15, 2002 08:06am | #14

   Danny,

   Pl Premium is even more fun than PL400 ! I think it takes 3 times as long to get it off your hands ! But it still takes time to set up unlike hotmelt which will set in about a minute and hold your piece in place untill your adhesive sets

   On An Island By The SEA

   Edited 12/15/2002 12:09:48 AM ET by NOVY_7

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   Piffin | Dec 15, 2002 07:20pm | #15

   PL Premium is almost all I use anymore.

   I have lava pumice stone in the shower to get it off my paws with, otherwise they stay black for three days..

   Excellence is its own reward!

   "The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit.

   The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."

   --Marcus Aurelius

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   andybuildz | Dec 16, 2002 12:56am | #16

   so how does it feel to be interracial for three days?

   aOne works on oneself, always. That's the greatest gift you can give to community because the more you extricate your mind from that which defines separateness, that defines community. The first thing is to become community. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   MarkH128 | Dec 16, 2002 01:06am | #17

   Aren't you being NEGATIVE?

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   andybuildz | Dec 15, 2002 07:31am | #13

   Novy

          OK.....thats what I thought you meant. I do that with everything I glue so I dont need clamps. theres this newish glue gun that I have to buy. costs about a hundred bucks but sounds well worth it. I use glue guns so often and they all sux if you ask me...Cant go more then a foot before the stick needs to reheat the glue stick.

   aOne works on oneself, always. That's the greatest gift you can give to community because the more you extricate your mind from that which defines separateness, that defines community. The first thing is to become community. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   bishopbldr | Dec 18, 2002 05:50am | #19

   Andy,

   I've got one of those new guns, Franklin Adhesives sells. It uses a modified glue cartridge available in 3 different time sets. Works great. One nice thing is it holds heat for a while so you can do alot more before it cools down. It's cordless too, which is great if you need to move around alot. Woodworkers warehouse is carrying them now, although I bought mine thru a wholesaler early on.

   Bish

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   andybuildz | Dec 18, 2002 07:48pm | #20

   Bishop

          Where can you get one wholesale now? I think they go for a hundred bucks. Not sure about the cost at Woodworkers Supply but glad you mention that because the only drawback I thought of was having to send away for glue sticks each time I need thema nd WWS is pretty close to me

   Thanks

          AndyOne works on oneself, always. That's the greatest gift you can give to community because the more you extricate your mind from that which defines separateness, that defines community. The first thing is to become community. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   bishopbldr | Dec 19, 2002 05:56am | #21

   Andy,

   I bought mine from Baer Supply, a laminate and plywood distributer, but to be honest I think I paid the same, about $99 that Woodworkers has them for. The glue comes in a metal cartridge and runs around $7 a tube. Not cheap, but a cartridge holds more glue than a glue stick. The glue is a lot higher strength also.

   Bish

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   stossel1 | Dec 15, 2002 03:59am | #5

   Since it is my own house and I am in no hurry I planned on going one row at a time and letting it set up for a day before proceeding. Presently I set one tile as a test. If it feels solid tomorrow I'll finish off the first row. If not I guess I'll apply the thinset and make a mess. I guess my reasoning was that no one is going to be walking on it. If I can let it alone until tomorrow is the big question, every time I walk by I want to give it a tug.

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   archyII | Dec 15, 2002 02:43am | #2

   Sounds like the wrong time to ask the question.  Let us know if it worked (a couple of years from now).  I would not post your question on any tile forums.

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   stossel1 | Dec 15, 2002 04:09am | #6

   I was concerned about how long it would last and decided that if the tiles start falling out I would just redo it, hell my house is a never ending project anyways.

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   Piffin | Dec 15, 2002 04:27am | #7

   I've been trying to figure out what kind of setting called for one single slate tile on a wall. Now I've got the whole picture.

   The 400 should work fine as long as you support while curing. My only hesitation is in the fact that some slate has oils in it sp it might not stick quite as well as a ceramic tile..

   Excellence is its own reward!

   "The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit.

   The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."

   --Marcus Aurelius

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   stossel1 | Dec 15, 2002 06:55am | #12

   Hey Piffin I guess I had you scratching your head on that one. I think it is fairly obvious to anyone who read my post that I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Appreciate the feedback

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   stossel1 | Dec 18, 2002 05:23am | #18

   Just an fyi for all those who responded, the tile is up and I don't think it is going anywhere. Thanks to all for your feedback.