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   Jer | Mar 13, 2009 06:07am | #1

   A plaster hood....
   for what?

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   popawheelie | Mar 13, 2009 06:15am | #2

   When I read it the picture that came to mind was a Spanish/ pueblo/ mission style of white plaster. Heavy looking with rounded corners.

   I did a jewelry case for a clothing store that was like that. Came out pretty good for a novice.

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   JuanTheBuilder | Mar 13, 2009 06:47am | #3

   Jer,

   Sorry I was not specific enough. What we are working on is a exhaust hood insert. It will be covered by wood and plaster. The idea is to simulate an old world finish. Any ideas?

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   renosteinke | Mar 13, 2009 06:49am | #4

   I doubt thatyou'll be allowed to cover it at all. Before proceeding, I'd check with both the health department ... as well as make very sure the insert isn't required to maintain a clearance from other surfaces.

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   Jer | Mar 13, 2009 01:34pm | #5

   Well, there would have to be some design in effect. Not really sure what you mean by "old world"
   Fancy with old moldings?
   French?
   American Southwest 'adobe' look?
   English daub & wattle?You can do anything you want with plaster really. The comment about the health code is one worth looking into certainly. It would have to be a certain type of harder plaster I think and a sealed finish. Plaster is not the best material to use as a hood....a cover might be ok.

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   DanH | Mar 13, 2009 01:37pm | #6

   You know, like on your cement parka.
   The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith

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   Dam_inspector | Mar 13, 2009 02:10pm | #7

   I was thinking of a plaster Dodge Ram hood.

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   JeffBuck | Mar 15, 2009 08:08am | #18

   get the hood on site and simply frame around it.

   last plaster one I did was a simple ... after the kitchen designer got the hood she lied about ordering ... on site. By that time, I'd framed out the 2x framing to the supplied cut sheet ... found out everythingw as wrong ... tore 3/4 of it out and framed again.

   the reframing was done after the upper cab's were mounted ... and seeing as how the real measurments were bigger ... that wall's cab's had to be removed and reset.

   but ... having everything finally on site ... made it all happen.

   It ended up being a 4ft hood, finish to finish ...

   so the framing measured 47 inches ... 1/2 inch to slip the blue board in.

   plasterer came in after me, ran a tape line down the face frames of the cabs and plastered away.

   his coat of plaster was only 1/8th to 3/16th thick ... laid over the face frames nicely.

    

   a good kitchen designer will have this all figured out ...

   and most kitchen designers won't have a f'n clue!

   so don't expect it.

    

   get the blower on site and go from there.

   Jeff    Buck Construction

    Artistry In Carpentry

        Pittsburgh Pa

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   Jer | Mar 15, 2009 02:22pm | #19

   "a good kitchen designer will have this all figured out ...and most kitchen designers won't have a f'n clue!so don't expect it."These words belong in a hall of fame somewhere, and should be burned into every GC's & carpenter's head.Obviously I have never installed a plaster hood and have found this thread most intriguing.

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   JuanTheBuilder | Mar 15, 2009 09:33pm | #20

   Thanks again for all of the great info and advice. Specially the designer disclaimer... very funny but true.

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   wane | Mar 13, 2009 03:40pm | #8

   don't think the health dept would have anything to say, maybe building inspector, there are distances above a stove that a range hood can go, and to combustibles (cabnets) sooo .. how about making a hardware cloth (wire mesh, chicken wire ..) frame and mortar/plaster on that??

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   DanH | Mar 13, 2009 04:26pm | #9

   I'd be worried about grease staining the thing -- if it's a real vent hood and not just for show.
   The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith

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   Henley | Mar 13, 2009 04:30pm | #10

   There are several companies that sell them, so
   it must be possible.http://www.tuscanstonemantels.com/Kitchen.aspx

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   JuanTheBuilder | Mar 13, 2009 06:13pm | #12

   Friends,

   Thank you for all of the good info and links. If possible, please keep them coming!

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   MikeHennessy | Mar 13, 2009 04:44pm | #11

   "I'd be worried about grease staining the thing -- if it's a real vent hood and not just for show."

   I'd second - and maybe even third - that caution! Anyone who ever spent time actually cleaning up a kitchen would cringe at the thought. (OP - ask your wife how she'd like it! Then try to talk the client out of it.)

   If the kitchen is used at all, these things collect a lot of greasy dust, etc. -- even on the outside. One of those rustic plaster surrounds would be literally impossible to keep clean unless you simply avoided using the stove.

   Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA

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   AitchKay | Mar 15, 2009 01:30am | #16

   I remember reading an article about a guy who built "antique" houses, that is, he built them to look like they'd been around for a couple of hundred years.After the fireplace was built and the walls plastered, he'd build a tarpaper fire in the fireplace, and close the damper.Voila! A couple of hundred years worth of fires would have left about the same stain on the wall. It looked fine, if you're an Old House type of person.Likewise, if you are replicating an old-world look, some staining of the plaster would fit right in.Remember, it's only been since WWII that TV commercials and home design mags have created the artificially-clean standards that people are trying to work to.Now we have beautifully-decorated dining rooms which work because no one ever sets foot in them, except for the cleaning person who comes once or twice a week.A plaster hood could work just fine, as long as it's not being plugged into one of these Lysol Generation McMansions.Aitchkay

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   popawheelie | Mar 14, 2009 04:48am | #15

   I think the grease stain would enhance it. You would just have to educate the end user about cleaning it. Basicly, don't.

   From what I've seen or read it gets better looking over time.

   I guess that if you go old world you buy into the whole kit and kaboodle.

   Edited 3/13/2009 9:50 pm ET by popawheelie

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   JuanTheBuilder | Mar 14, 2009 04:10am | #13

   Wane,

   No issues with the health department, we just checked... and as for the BI, well, he is always a pain.... but we will manage!

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   paulandre | Mar 14, 2009 04:42am | #14

   built one for my house wood, corved drywall,paint three feet over stove .

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   migraine | Mar 15, 2009 03:33am | #17

   I think what you are talking about is needing a liner and you will build a hood around it , right???

   if that is the case, try Vent-A Hood.  They make liners.  Stainless(and copper) steels with all the guts.  Not cheap $$$$

   The problem is the fire rating for the material around it.  What is the requirement in your area?   For some locations/building inspectors, it must be spect'd from the manufacture and should be for insurance reasons.   The homeowners and your liability insurance.

   I think this is the last post for the P.M.  A few drinks and the typing/spelling(dislexai) is really showing...even with speel check.