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Plumbing below the sewer line level

c2500 | Posted in Construction Techniques on January 29, 2003 02:58am

I am in the process of purchasing a home with a basement that would be excellent to finish. The only drawback is a sewer drainline that is 4 feet or so above the floor. I have seen ads for fixtures that pump uphill. Does anyone have experience with this type fixture? Or other suggestions on how to “Code compliant” install a bathroom in this environment. Any input will be appreciated. By the way, I am in Greenville, SC if that makes a difference.

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  1. Danusan11 | Jan 29, 2003 03:12am | #1

    You need a sewage grinder pump, basically its a self sealed enclosed unit  the lid bolts down to sump with rubber seal which dumps the sewage into a plastic crock, which has a float thats internal.   You will have to saw cut floor to set sump below finish surface floor so that you get gravity flow from toilet.  Risier pipe leaves crock and ties into existing sewer line, make sure check value is installed for pump doesn't continually cycle. 


    Edited 1/28/2003 7:20:01 PM ET by DANUSAN11



    Edited 1/28/2003 7:22:26 PM ET by DANUSAN11

  2. DaveRicheson | Jan 29, 2003 03:58am | #2

    Zoller (sp) makes a unit called the QuickJohn that is a collection tank ank and ejection pumo in one unit, that mounts above the floor. The toilet sets on top of the 5 1/2" tall tank. If you have the ceiling height you can build a 6" step platform of 2x6 and 3/4" plywood. No cutting into the concrete floor, etc. The unit comes with pump and check vavle.

    I put one in my in-laws basement 7 years ago, and thus far there has been no problem with it. BIL and his family lived down there 3 years, so it got a lot of use from a family of four.

    Dave

  3. househelper | Jan 29, 2003 05:36am | #3

    Plan on using the grinder pump. It will handle waste from toilet, sink, shower, et.al. Any plumber in the area should be familiar with the setup and installation. They are used quite a bit in your area.

  4. GUNN308 | Jan 29, 2003 05:37am | #4

    Having done an 8 house project in Middlefield Ct. 16 years where the sewer line in the street was 2 1/2" so all the houses had to pump up & out the only thing I can say is buy a top quality grinder pump put it below the slab & leave access to it, this is no place to pinch pennies.

    The old sayin you can pay me now or pay me more later is true in this case. I have had 3 installed in different jobs here in Maine & have had no problems at all just remember buy quality.

  5. coolcall | Jan 29, 2003 08:18am | #5

    I'm looking to do the same here is what I've found so far - only surfed so I don't know what is good or what is junk.

    http://www.goulds.com/newsstory.asp?ID=30

    http://www.libertypumps.com/products.asp?MainCat=6

    http://www.saniflo.com/

    http://www.us.grundfos.com/web/sew.nsf

    now hurry and put one of each in and tell me which one works the best.

    1. Remodeler | Jan 29, 2003 04:58pm | #6

      There was a recent thread (last week or so) about a guy having problems with some brand.  My personal experience is Zoeller makes good products, and a company I am dealing with now E-1 makes good stuff.

      remodeler

      1. Stray | Jan 29, 2003 05:19pm | #7

        Leave access as mentioned, but do your best to insulate it from the finished space.  Especially if this is adjacent to an entertainment/TV room.  These things can make some noise, and you don't want to have to hit the volume button every time your kid flushes te toilet...

        1. DaveRicheson | Jan 31, 2003 04:00am | #8

          Stray, you are right about the noise. I might also add that you need to secure the discharge pipe really tight. Most of these pump kick hard enough to rattle a poorly secured pipe.

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