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   stonebm | Sep 11, 2003 11:48pm | #1

   About $14 per sheet in central New York but that was a few days ago.

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   CAGIV | Sep 12, 2003 12:29am | #2

   ~ $15  a sheet in Lawrence KS, about 30 miles west of KC

   whats 1/2 cdx running by you?

   Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.

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   briankeith | Sep 12, 2003 12:43am | #5

   $19.19 for 1/2" cdx

   This is pretty unbelievable.

   Are you getting rained on yet?View Image

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   CAGIV | Sep 12, 2003 03:28am | #15

   on and off, goes from drizzle to cats and dogs in about 2 seconds, then cuts back down.  Mother Nature can't seem to make up it's mind on how much she wants to rain

   Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.

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   andybuildz | Sep 12, 2003 12:44am | #6

   Neil

         Got the take off of my plans back and CDX here on Long Island is now about $17 for 1/2" CDX.

   3/4" subfloor (Advantech) $25

   Don't forget though, I'm buying bulk now

   PS...Dont tell Piff why the cost of plywoods gone up so much for us USAers,,,and don't say the word, "Halliburton"!

   BE well bro,

                     andy

    The way we regard death is critical to the way we experiance life.

   When your fear of death changes, the way you live your life changes.

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

   Edited 9/11/2003 5:45:32 PM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 02:38am | #10

   I've seen it up to nineteen a sheet before and back down again. There is almost nothing in the market that fluctuates as much as these sheet goods..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   andybuildz | Sep 12, 2003 03:01am | #11

   how bout gas and oil? The way we regard death is critical to the way we experiance life.

   When your fear of death changes, the way you live your life changes.

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 03:13am | #13

   yep, Remember paying 1.76 for gas long ago..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   andybuildz | Sep 12, 2003 03:21am | #14

   Piff

        Sorry to say but I remember paying 76 cents for gas....12 cents for a White Castle burger, 75 cents for a movie and they showed two of em', 15 cents to get on the subway, and five bucks for a nickle bag.....lol (of good stuff), 12 cents for a Marvel comic book, 15 cents for a slice,$135 a month rent in the lower east side when I was a runaway at 16.

   Sorry but I really hate Bush more than anyyyyyyy pres in history.

   Be well my brother

            andy The way we regard death is critical to the way we experiance life.

   When your fear of death changes, the way you live your life changes.

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 04:09am | #19

   Oh, ewe want the bottom memory...

   I remember paying .13 /gal for gas ( which was nice since that '64 GTO didn't exactly get great mileage)

   and making a dollar an hour

   and nickle candy bars

   go ahead and hate'm

   He still does the job for you too..

   Excellence is its own reward!

4. 
   Luka | Sep 12, 2003 04:16am | #20

   Go ahead and love him.

   He still does the job to you too.

   ; )

   A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.

   Quittin' Time

5. 
   edwardh1 | Sep 12, 2003 11:09pm | #32

   well the price for making it sure has not jumped so someone is making a lot of $$$$

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   WorkshopJon | Sep 12, 2003 05:15am | #21

   "12 cents for a White Castle burger"

   Andy,

   Yeah, those were the days. Remember a "road trip" to the one on Bruckner Bvld. (Hunts Point)  one night (3:00am) as a teen. Ordered 80, no kidding. Van load of kids. Wound up chucking half @  ????? on the way back up to Westchester. Those were the days.

   Jon

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   donpapenburg | Sep 12, 2003 05:54am | #22

   And the $6.00 burger at Hardees only has $0.20 worth of meat in it today

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   Hornick | Sep 12, 2003 01:58pm | #23

   7/16" OSB went from $9.67 CDN to $26.50 and was rising by the hour at the Lumberyard.  Contractors and builders galore in a huge panic and changing sheathing material as fast as possible.

   This will affect our building by several thousand dollars and is rediculous.  Will probably mean alot of lay offs and guys going out of buisness untill prices return to normal.Cheers,

   Brent

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   andybuildz | Sep 12, 2003 01:59pm | #24

   Jon

          Bruckner Blvd.......now thats a memory right there...specially all dem hookers at 4:00 A.M. The way we regard death is critical to the way we experiance life.

   When your fear of death changes, the way you live your life changes.

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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    rez | Sep 13, 2003 01:23am | #33

    Hey, I ain't no old fogey and I remember pumping gas at 23.9.

    I think I remember.

    Where'd I leave my glasses?

     Yep, Marvel and DC both at 12 cents. You still buy 'em?

     

    Edited 9/12/2003 6:25:41 PM ET by rez

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    Texfan | Sep 12, 2003 03:28am | #16

    Try $0.21 for gas. I guess I'm older. 84 Lumber in Conroe Tx. (near Houston) sells OSB for $16.89 per sheet to nonbuilders. $2 less for account buyers. The Buyer was there when I went to pay my bill and said they were told the Army bought 700 railcar loads of OSB for Iraq. I emailed a local TV station and told them to get a picture of all those board feet of OSB in Iraq, then I'd believe it. I smell a rat! One that plays Monopoly."I am not young enough to know everything."

    - Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

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    finishcarp | Sep 12, 2003 03:39am | #17

    Funny I was ona jobsite today and was talking to the local lumber guy who buys the lumber.  He said about the same thing - that the US Army had bought this stuff which causes a huge demand.  ( I,m up here in the great whitere north)  Also mentioned that the forest fires in British Columbia had destroyed as much lumber as the US would take in a year!! 

    All adds up to price volatility in a commodities market....  my bet is that prices will ease off as we head to the colder weather, as long as you don't have to build a house for a customer............

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    Texfan | Sep 12, 2003 03:51am | #18

    Hope it falls fast. I have a spec and a contract to start. On the contract I have an escalation clause for a runup in costs.The spec can absorb the cost. I don't know if all the explanations fly. Down here all OSB is SYP. "I am not young enough to know everything."

    - Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 12:31am | #3

   Maine

   9.96 two weeks ago. I was surprised since I had already heard about it going up. Don't know what it is today

   .

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   CAGIV | Sep 12, 2003 12:38am | #4

   Do you go to the "mainland" for a decent price on lumber etc. or are the prices on the island comparable, or is the price premium if there is one, just built in?Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 02:36am | #9

   That was for three sheets, delivered. They run out here almost every day..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   johnnyd | Sep 12, 2003 06:03pm | #26

   Hey Piffin...what % of material cost in residential construction goes to plywood decking/sheathing...sheet goods....versus structural lumber/trusses/foundation?

   Just general...like:

   Sheet good materials:  60% (?)

   Structural materials: 20% (?)

   Foundation materials: 20% (?)

   Or do the proportions vary alot depending on style and actual material quality?

   In general, is the same zoom up in sheet goods also seen in structural lumber?

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 06:18pm | #27

   No idea on those percentages. I know that us remodelors use far less lumber than builders aas a rule, because much of the structure is already in place.

   lumber has gone up but for different reasons. Sheet goods like OSB and ply are made in plants that are bigger users of energy and chemicals such as glues. So the price of oil is going to impact the cost of sheet goods more.

   The tariffs have done more to influence the price of structural lumber. I'll let Boss Hog comment on the trusses ands engineered lumber items. Seems to be more competition there and as manufactured goods, they are less impacted by tariffs.

   The recent run up in osb/ply shouldn't add more than two thousand to a house, IMO and probably no more than 1200 in most cases..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   BossHog | Sep 12, 2003 06:55pm | #29

   " I'll let Boss Hog comment on the trusses ands engineered lumber items."

   Actually, I'm kinda out of the loop on day-to-day material price issues. I do know for sure that the Canadian Lumber Tarrifs have hurt the price of trusses. I have no idea if it affects the prices of engineered wood or not. But it couldn't help.

   In general, engineered wood prices tend to be more stable than dimensional lumber. A lot of the price of engineered wood is labor and material OTHER than lumber, and those costs aren't as volatile.

   Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, they go out and buy more tunnel [John Quinton]

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   Piffin | Sep 12, 2003 08:26pm | #30

   What I was getting at is that a plain old 2 x 4 gets hit bt the tariff but iff they drill holes in it for electrical runs, it is now a manufactured product that is exempt from the tariff. Make a truss out of it and there is no tariff on it.

   I don't know how many trusses cross borders

   But therre are more than a few TJI's. The good thing with the TJI pricing is that the patents went off them a couple years ago so competing factories helped the price of them. But like with OSB, the companies can manipulate prices by closing plants down for "maintanance" or "re-fitting"

   I thought that maybe you'd heard scuttlebutt from complainers in the coffee room or something..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   BossHog | Sep 12, 2003 08:57pm | #31

   "I don't know how many trusses cross borders..."

   Actually, that's a hot issue in the truss business. Due to the "law of unintended consequences".

   New truss companies are springing up in Canada near the U.S. border. They can build the trusses and ship them across the border WITHOUT paying the tarrifs.

   Truss plants in the U.S. that are near the border can't compete with them and are going out of business, since they have to pay the ridiculously high tarrifs.

   So the lumber is coming across the border anyway (WITHOUT paying the tarrifs) but the employment is shifting into Canada.I would like to electrocute everyone who uses the word 'fair' in connection with income tax policies [William F. Buckley]

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   BossHog | Sep 12, 2003 06:26pm | #28

   One of the salesmen from the lumberyard in town just stopped by to drop off a print. He said the owner of the chain he worked for had called and said when they sold the OSB they had on hand, they weren't getting any more for a while.

   They're currently selling 7/16 OSB for $17 a sheet.

   He said he had heard of a guy south of here who used 1X sheathing on the walls of his new house because OSB was so expensive.

   If suplies are so tight the lumberyards can't get it in, I figure the price will go up more. Maybe we should start a pool on how high it will get?The best way to cheer yourself up is to cheer others up [Mark Twain]

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   BKCBUILDER | Sep 12, 2003 12:47am | #7

    $15.60/sht...NE Ohio

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   WorkshopJon | Sep 12, 2003 12:59am | #8

   "The price of 7/16" OSB has climbed to $19.99 in Buffalo, MO"

   Bee,

   About two years ago it was selling for $3.79 a sheet (on sale) at Menards. Wanted to pick up a skid load, but the Fiance" at the time said no 'cause I had no current use for it. How times change. You would have beat the stock market had you a place to store it!

   Jon

   BTW, did pick up 200 sheets of 1/2" drywall @ $1.49 sheet back when it was cheap. Used it all.

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   G80104 | Sep 12, 2003 03:12am | #12

   7/16 OSB $15.67 3/4 t&g OSB $26.00 Denver Co.

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   BossHog | Sep 12, 2003 02:29pm | #25

   We're gonna take the money out of the safe and put the OSB in it before the weekend.................(-:

   Why do they call it ORIENTAL strand board, anyway ???