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Problems with the subfloor – need advise

JamesP | Posted in General Discussion on July 12, 2005 04:39am

My brother just built a house and it was completed about 9 months ago. He is having problems with his wood flooring (strip flooring). Every four feet his floors are buckling. It is obvious it has something to do with the subfloor. When I walk around in his house I can feel low spots in the floor and the floor is extremely noisy. This problem is out of my league…I need your help.  What is the fix? 

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    IMERC | Jul 12, 2005 05:18pm | #1

    good chance the sub floor isn't glued to the joists, wrong sized fasteners, too few fasteners or the subfloor is delaminating at the edges and so on...

    can you get to the underside???

    yur brother built this house himself or had built???

     

    1. JamesP | Jul 12, 2005 05:28pm | #2

      He had it built.

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        IMERC | Jul 12, 2005 06:43pm | #3

        at 9 months he may have an issue with the builder....

        dependeing what is the cause dictates the reair... hunch says it all comes up and redone... 

  2. mike4244 | Jul 13, 2005 01:48am | #4

    First of all get the builder back. The subfloor may or not be the problem. The strip flooring may be the problem,or the installation method. Do you know if the builder or a sub laid the strip floor. Hard to say what the problem is without actually seeing it.

    mike

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    AdamGreisz | Jul 13, 2005 01:58am | #5

    Is the strip flooring nailed down or floating?

     

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    1. JamesP | Jul 13, 2005 05:01pm | #11

      Nailed

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    dieselpig | Jul 13, 2005 02:01am | #6

    Every four feet?

    Is he over a basement or crawlspace?  Any moisture problems in that area?  VB?

    Can you get under and get some pics?

    1. Piffin | Jul 13, 2005 04:15am | #7

      Ding
      Ding
      Ding
      Ding!!!I see moisture primary problem probably. Along with possibly no T&G subfloor - OSB - PoOr nailing patterns and maybe no const adhesive. 

       

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    2. JamesP | Jul 13, 2005 05:03pm | #12

      It is a crawl space...The HVAC condensation drain pipe was routed to the underside of the house instead of ouside like it should have been. The crawl space was wet due to this. My brother had an inspector come out to the house and he said that the moisture would not have caused this buckling...

      1. dIrishInMe | Jul 14, 2005 04:01am | #14

        >> My brother had an inspector come out to the house and he said that the moisture would not have caused this buckling... <<

        I think it would.Matt

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          dieselpig | Jul 14, 2005 04:11am | #15

          Me too.  I'd bet my favorite wormdrive that moisture plays a part somewhere in this mess.

          And I love my wormdrives.

          1. JamesP | Jul 14, 2005 05:10pm | #16

            Thanks to all of you for all the great advise. It has helped a great deal.

      2. mike4244 | Jul 14, 2005 09:09pm | #17

        I believe the inspector is wrong, the dampness will evaporate,up to the subfoor and then finish floor.In any case route the line outside.

        mike

  5. buzbldr | Jul 13, 2005 07:49am | #8

    As has been said ... sounds like it has to come up, there just is "NO" repair for a floor in that condition.

    The Builder needs to be contacted and informed of the problem, typically he was the one to hire hthe flooring installer, at least he should be the one responsible for the proper installation regardless of who did it.

    Here in Oregon you can go through the state Construction Contractors Board and get his attention real quick as his license, bond and insurance could be at stake. Hope your state has a similar agency.

    1. JamesP | Jul 13, 2005 05:04pm | #13

      Kentucky...I dont think they do.

  6. dIrishInMe | Jul 13, 2005 03:01pm | #9

    Perhaps the subfloor wasn't gapped properly and is now being exasperated by moisture.  If the floor is above a crawl space, is there vapor barrier on the crawl floor?  Wonder what it looks/sounds like from underneath - assuming no finish below...  Also, often flooring contractors install red rosin paper before the strip flooring to help with the noise factor.  Sounds like it could be the subfloor and the hardwood install.   
     

    Matt
  7. andybuildz | Jul 13, 2005 03:19pm | #10

    I doubt it but check that the strip floor isn't installed "tight" to the walls. I try the easy route first than panic later.

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