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   Guest_ | Apr 01, 2000 04:40am | #1

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   Mark, have you thought about useing pocket screws from the back, possibly combined with a biscuit?

   You can get a Kreg pockethole jig for a little over $100.00 bucks. Then you wouldnt even need clamps. We've done this on wide interior casing several times, works great. You may want to use a plated screw since this is exterior.

   Chuck

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   Guest_ | Apr 01, 2000 04:54am | #2

   *As far as the frames go, I agree with Chuck, love the Kreg jig. Even faster would be a squaring jig (sounds like you already have that in mind), and staples. you could have two jigs, with the glue settig up in one while the next is going together. Even if you biscuit, staples are the fastest way of clamping while the glue dries. Staples and a couple of screws are faster by far than biscuits,plus no clamps, and plenty strong for that application, as another way (tried and true in cabinet construction).

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   Guest_ | Apr 01, 2000 05:26am | #3

   *Mark, Ditto what Chuck and Adrian said. If I understand correctly the casing will be butt joined? Regardless, if your angles are good, the pocket screws tend to pull the thing into square. Plated screws and gorilla glue as required.Good thinking on the mass production. You can get the kreg pocket rocket, a plastic version that has some good features for about 60 bucks. I have it and use it all the time, sometimes in conjunction with biscuits.Good luck,Tom

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   Guest_ | Apr 01, 2000 05:32am | #4

   *Yeah, I'm a recent Kreg convert and I love the standard tool, but use the blue "rocket" even more. Just built some benches for a deck with pocket holes and deck screws. Worked out great. (hey Tommy, ah, you wear a beard?)

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   Guest_ | Apr 01, 2000 03:08pm | #5

   *Jim, I am not the bearded one. If I get your drift. I'd be careful using his real name around here.Tom

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   Mark_Brewer | Apr 05, 2000 02:11am | #6

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   Hey,
   I have to proclaim my ignorance on the matter of staples. Wha'? How?

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   Guest_ | Apr 05, 2000 03:09am | #7

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   Mark; sorry, I may have made a mental slip there. I started off thinking 'casing' and when you said frames, I switched to 'jambs' in my head. Mostly I was thinking of fast assembly methods in general, which you may not be able to apply. By staples, I meant 18 gauge staples from a pneumatic stapler, which I use a lot as a 'clamp' in assembly joints that are glued and/or screwed; fire one or two in, and they hold the pieces in position while glue dries, or you drive in screws. If it is casing frames, maybe you could apply the principle by way of a rented cleat gun, firing those corrugated fastners to hold things while glue dries or you do whatever else you need to do. Or the Kreg jig is still a great solution; I just made a bunch of picture frames with pieces as wide as 10", about the same size as you describe, mitred, glued , and pocket screwed; very solid. Sorry if i confused you.

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   Mark_Brewer | Apr 07, 2000 02:51am | #8

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   Thanks,
   Yes, I meant casing and I've since checked out the Kegs"pocket rocket" on the Tool Crib website. Iwweb site.interesting and doable.
   Idouble. any awkwardness getting the pieces to lie in the same plane while screwing? From the picture the set up doesn't look quite as staight fostraightts biscutting as far as aligning faces is concerned.
   But I like that clamping and set up time for glue seems so reduced.

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   Guest_ | Apr 07, 2000 03:10am | #9

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   I have the regular Kreg, not the Rocket, but it must be same principle. Mine came with a vise grip clamp, with paddle faces like a welders clamp, automatically puts the faces in the same plane.

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   Guest_ | Apr 07, 2000 04:47am | #11

   *Adrian - get a Rocket. I use that way more than the original jig. Very handy. I bought both in a set last year and use them constantly. You were right, great tool.

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   Mark_Brewer | Apr 07, 2000 04:47am | #10

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   I have 52 identical 3-0 by 6-0 vinyl windows to trim for a riding ring my company is building. I intend to set up a jig for cutting all the exterior casing (measure once, cut hundreds!) and would like to prefabricate the trim for each window and set each unit in place using the godsend of this job, the grade-all.
   Does anyone have suggestions for biscutting, gluing and clamping such a sizeable number of frames on a job site? Each frame will have a head piece 3/4 wider than the legs (3/8 overhang on each leg)and the bottom piece will be set inside the legs, which will be flush I/ the bottom rail. I'll be using 1x4. This is exterior painted casing.
   I can foresee problems with squaring the units and setting up a jig to assure the 3/8 is maintained, in addition to the problem of clamping, etc.
   I would be able to weld extensions to the few clamps I own so I might could stack clamp.
   Any ideas?