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Proper type of nails for vinyl siding

BOILERMAN | Posted in General Discussion on August 23, 2002 04:06am

I have a conventional 2 story home that I plan to have vinyl siding installed on. I plan on using a 1 ” Foam insulated sheathing under it. My question is: what type and size nail is best for this job. Aluminum nails bend too easily, so thats out. Will Galvanized [eg.] be OK or should I opt for a galvanized hot dipped instead? What about stainless steel? Your comments appreciated.

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  1. jet | Aug 23, 2002 05:00am | #1

    I've always used roofing nails. Galvanized.

  2. andybuildz | Aug 23, 2002 09:46pm | #2

     1 3/4"" roofers. Center the nails in the slots and dont nail em tight or you'll get the siding to look like a roller coaster. Be consistant in your nailing. I usually nail every foot and a half or less. HAve the seams overlap so when you look down the side of the house you walk along most you dont see the butt ends. If your concerned about insulation ....besides the 1" foam you can also use "slip in" foam behind each panel which I highly reccomend. Reason being is it makes each panel more solid besides the insulating factor, HAve fun tin man.

    BE well

            Namaste'

                        Andy

    It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

    1. MisterT | Aug 24, 2002 05:05am | #3

      Galvies will work fine for the vinyl, but if you are putting up any aluminum trim make sure you use aluminum nails.

      T

      Do not try this at home!

      I am a trained professional!

      1. Eyeguy3038 | Aug 24, 2002 05:59pm | #4

        Just a quick question, I remember being told to use aluminum nails for aluminum but Why?? is there a reaction with galvanised??

        1. JamesDuHamel | Aug 25, 2002 12:20am | #6

          Galvanized nails and aluminum ANYTHING don't mix.

          When two dissimilar metals (galv and aluminum in this case) are together, and ANY kind of moisture is introduced, you get corrosion. The corrosion is caused by a process caused electrolysis, andit WILL eat up the metal.

          Humidity, and moisture in the air are enough (over time) to eat at the metals and cause a problem.

          Just a thought...James DuHamel

           

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          1. KenHill3 | Aug 25, 2002 04:55am | #7

            Exactly, James. Galvanic corrosion.

            Ken Hill

      2. andybuildz | Aug 24, 2002 09:43pm | #5

        Hey T

                  You tellin me ya cant use roofers on trim????? No wonder I dont get any more siding jobs....hmm

        Be well

                Namaste'

                            AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

  3. johnnysawzall | Aug 25, 2002 05:12am | #8

    If your nailing through 1" foam and you want your siding to hang on the nails use at least  a 2" gal .  Sorry Andy!!

    1. andybuildz | Aug 25, 2002 07:19am | #9

      Jag....1" foam and the thickness of the siding lip (about 3/16) and 1/2 sheathing....why would you need "at least" a 2 roofer?It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

      1. johnnysawzall | Aug 28, 2002 04:14am | #12

        You (25 yrs) or I (16 yrs) should be able to set that 13/4 just right but I think from the sound of his thread (now I might be wrong here) HA49 isn't that experienced in siding . You know once you drive that nail through that 1" foam you tend to over hammer a bit to get through your sheathing and before you know it you've snugged your siding to tight. I was just trying to save em the hassle of pulling back on his nails. I didn't mean to contradict you Andy that's why the apology. I wasn't trying to be smart. I was just looking out for someone less experienced (???) then ourselves, that is  what this is all about, huh??

        1. Davo304 | Aug 28, 2002 08:15am | #13

          Practically every vinyl siding job I ever saw ( the one exception was a DIYer), and everyone I ever did ( I've done more than a few), I used aluminum siding nails.

          Galvanized roofing nails can, over time, ( a long time, sure but...) still rust. Aluminum cannot. That is the difference, and that is why aluminum is used here. Factory reps used to always insist that we use aluminum siding nails. Suppliers too. They would hold out boxes of the aluminum nails and ask you how many boxes you needed everytime you would be placing a vinyl siding order.

          Now there's been occaisions where I've used my Bostich roofing gun to nail up the 1/4 inch fanfold backer insulation, and I tell myself "what the heck, the roofing nails are galv...it will be OK." but I always have an uneasy feeling about it ...so I try not to do it too often...but a nail gun is always sweeter than a regular hammer; if you know what I mean.

          Davo

          1. Davo304 | Aug 28, 2002 08:21am | #14

            On the subject of galvanic corrosion.......

            How many of ya have used exterior drywall type screws (GRABBER, etc) to fasten gutter hangers in place?

            I must confess I have done that a few times and I often wonder if galvanic corrosion will take place or not. The screws I use (Grabber brand) have a baked on ceramic coating...I wonder if the ceramic coating protects against this phenomena.

            Comments please.......

            Davo

        2. andybuildz | Aug 28, 2002 03:15pm | #15

          well taken   : )

          Be well

                     NAmaste

                                    AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

  4. Nails | Aug 25, 2002 05:16pm | #10

    Just curious if you are going to "have vinyl siding installed" probably means your not doing it  yourself. What makes you think alum. nails bend to easy?  Ive never used Roofers on vinyl siding because I once asked if it was ok to use galv.roofers and was told by the supplier, " no because they are used for the roof ,alum. siding nails are used for siding" I think we need a manufacters comment on this or maybe a good rep.

    1. andybuildz | Aug 26, 2002 04:12am | #11

      Used roofers for over 25 years...I think your supplier is talking about trim nails.....or he wants to sell you some dern expensive nails....anddddd,,,the aluminum trim nails DO bend pretty easily which is why you want to buy the shortest ones for trim work.

      It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

      Edited 8/25/2002 9:19:27 PM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)

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