Pro’s and Con’s of metal wrapped fascia?
I need the fascia boards scraped, primed, and painted before the new roof and drip edge goes on. To help make the fascia new looking, I can overlay the Hardieplank, attach with screws, do filler, and paint for less than $300.<!—-> <!—-><!—->
I have a chance to have the same fascia wrapped with aluminum coil stock that has a textured brown paint and installed before the new roof and drip edge is put down. The metal is bent to go 2″ over the roof decking, down the fascia, and bent again to cover the facia edge and an inch more to trim new soffit next year. The metal is installed with lap seams every 10′. Material and labor cost for 8″ wide, 350′ of fascia is about $1,900.<!—-> <!—->
What are the Pro’s and Con’s for the added cost and appearance of metal wrapping maybe “oil canning” over time on the fascia? <!—-> <!—->
Bill <!—-><!—->
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I'd tear out all existing and replace with PVC (KOMA or AZEK, not the slick, shiney stuff). Paint it whatever color you like. No worrys about wood rotting under the aluminum, scratches, dents, etc., do it once, do it right, and never look back.
are you going to put gutters on when your done? i have done several with the hardi nailed over the old ,letting it hang about a 1/2 inch lower than the old stuff,then paint it and put new gutters on.,only about 2" shws anyway. cost for hardi and new gutters comes in at less than 4.00 a ft larry
if a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?
I'm not considering gutters, since the house has never had them.
Is the gutter material what you buy at the box stores, or is it the seamless formed-from-coilstock?
Bill
i have guy come out and do the seamless deal.2.85 a foot,i can't buy the stuff for that and crawl up and down the ladder. this is one of only about 3 things i hire done. takes them abot a hour to do 400'if a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?
I'm not a big fan of wrapping anything in metal on a home. Every piece of metal I have taken off of a home, I have sen severe rot underneath.
Now I can understand that some of the rot was probably there before the wrap, but wrapping will not let the wood breath and capture moisture and keep it close to the wood.
I would go with the hardie or full replacement with Azec.
"It is what it is."
First - one real draw-back of metal is that once you pick the color - you are pretty much stuck with it. I guess you can paint it later, but the metal should have maybe a 25 year life expectancy - including the paint....
Regarding oil-canning - yes it is a concern. If you are going to get gutters on the horizontal eves that will hide that part. On the rakes, you need to have a "feature bend" there. Without spending much time, a feature bend looks roughly like this:
___ roof surface
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<- feature bend
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| fascia board is here
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Next - I don't see your price comparison as an apples to apples. Are you saying that the Hardie plank is a DIY on your own home and the metal is a turnkey installed price? If that is the case, you are basically saying your time is worth nothing. If so, I have some painting to be done at my house.... I'll even give you a beer - when you are done. :-) Heck - I'll even drink one with ya.
Old Joke: Lady of the night walks up to a middle aged guy in a bar and says "I'll do anything for 500 bucks". He says "great!!! Paint my house!!". :-)
Also - if the fascia wrap goes up the roof 2" you don't need drip edge. To me, you need to add the drip edge to your Hardie plank costs.
And another thing: why would you want to screw the Hardi plank fascia wrap? Been reading too much BT stuff????
another option is Miratec.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I try to do it like this whenever possible. Good luck with whatever you decide.
David
The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Remember - this is BT - be careful with those pics you post. :-) Can't get away with much.... :-)
In the last pic I see a piece of siding in the upper left attached directly over the OSB - no paper....
What? The house was like that when you got there? You gotta force the HO to pay you to remove all the siding on the house and put up a proper secondary weather barrier. ;-) Otherwise you are a just a sleaze-ball contractor... :-)
Matt
Remember - this is BT - be careful with those pics you post. :-) Can't get away with much.... :-)
And in pic #33 the tarpaper is behind the top flange of the vinyl window. Granted it is very close the eave and it probably won't leak. The last memo I got from the housewrap police is that the housewrap should go over the top flange. :-)
Rich
The final flashing/trim detail (2x6 clad w/ vinyl coated trim stock) IS over the flange. Thanks for paying close attention.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Thanks for straightening me out Matt. If you saw my Bay Window thread, you'll remember that the existing home was sided sans paper of any sort.
I ain't forcing anybody to do anything!!! The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
I was joking around.... Without looking back I believe I had several smiley faces in the post.
BTW - the end result looks really nice and clean.
I know you were dude. I Was just clarifying for those here who didn't. You know there are folks here who get their rox off picking apart on shid like that.
Hope all is well/busy in the "Triangle" for ya.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
For now I am slammed. Not sure what will happen after the first of the year though. Hopefully something will come up.
BTW - I have/had a bud who's name was David Hawks. Straingly enough he changed his name... Wanted to take back the name of his birth father... He is my computer geek consultant. Good guy...
BTW - I have/had a bud who's name was David Hawks. Straingly enough he changed his name... Wanted to take back the name of his birth father... He is my computer geek consultant. Good guy...
Too funny! David Hawks isn't my given name either.
Adopted from the children's home in Greensboro at 6 weeks.
No idea about birth parents; am ok with that.
The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
If your existing wood fascia is not rotted, and you can simply scrape, spot-prime, and re-paint it, why would you go to the trouble and expense of overlaying it with 'wood-look' cement board that will always look like the fake it is, or wrapping it with cheap aluminum that will ding and scratch easily, oilcan in hot sun, attract dirt like a magnet, and fade/chalk on you?
Just paint the sucker.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not brought
low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
foolish men call Justice....
This is a problem I'm having right now.
I have to replace an overhang which has been pulled away from the house by the strain of an awning.
The fascia is wrapped with aluminum, but the area we need to repair is not the entire house overhang, ad I'm trying to convince the homeowner to change the entire fascia to PVC or primed fascia. I feel it will last longer than something that is wrapped.
Oh well. His house.
Quality repairs for your home.
AaronR Construction
Vancouver, Canada