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Protecting Concrete from mud

Matt | Posted in General Discussion on December 2, 2009 04:18am

If I roll out red rosin paper on my new concrete will the red come out of the paper and stain the concrete?  I’m looking for something a little heavier than regular brown craft paper.

The mud I’m I’m trying to keep off the concrete is red clay – It will stain the concrete.

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  1. DonCanDo | Dec 02, 2009 04:21pm | #1

    Depending on how much you need, masonite is pretty cheap and will definitely do the job.

    1. cjeffrey | Dec 02, 2009 04:34pm | #2

      Make sure to tape the seems on the sheets as well.

    2. JohnSprungX | Dec 02, 2009 11:26pm | #6

      Even cheaper than masonite, any time you demo some of that thin 1970's luan paneling, just keep the big pieces. 

       

      -- J.S.

       

      1. brownbagg | Dec 03, 2009 01:09am | #7

        get rid of the mud

  2. mikeys | Dec 02, 2009 06:21pm | #3

    I use this interior.
    http://www.ramboard.com/docs/Ram_Board_Brochure.pdf
    Tape seams with duct tape.
    i don't know how it would hold up exterior, for that I'd probably use 1/4" luan.

     

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    popawheelie | Dec 02, 2009 07:50pm | #4

    Could you seal the concrete first?

    Whatever you put on you could seal it first.

    There are sealers that look like there isn't anything. The concrete looks the same as before sealer.

    "There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading, the few who learn by observation and the rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."
    Will Rogers
  4. dovetail97128 | Dec 02, 2009 08:11pm | #5

    Matt,

    I know the woes of mineral laden clay and stains on concrete.
    I used to use old fashioned 15# felt. Worked well for garages, utility areas, under carpet areas etc.
    Put it down with taped seams right after the concrete had hardened enough to walk on.
    DO NOT use sealer before putting it down as some sealers will dissolve the oils out of the felt.

    Last house I did though was a batch plant supplied red colored slab on grade. On that one we used 4 mil plastic, rosin paper, builders cardboard, then a cheap masonite type product.
    I wanted to not only protect against stains but the inevitable dings and scratches from dropped tools, materials and general building process damage. Seemed like a lot of effort but when we stripped it all out after drywall and painting was done the floor was still pristine and needed no further cleaning.
    Framing was done in late fall and it was a wet one so mud and clay was the order of the day.



    Edited 12/2/2009 12:12 pm by dovetail97128

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    Matt | Dec 03, 2009 02:10am | #8

    I should have said that this is exterior.  The masonite is too expensive.  The ramboard I thought of too, but again, too expensive.  So far there is about 1200 sq ft of concrete most of which needs to be covered with another 3000 to be placed shortly.  The idea is just mostly to create walkways over the next pour.

    Anyone know about the red rosin paper?

    I need to do something tomorrow at 7:00 AM as the plumbers are coming and there are more workers to follow.

    1. calvin | Dec 03, 2009 02:36am | #9

      Matt,

      Red Rosin will bleed.

      Do Not Use.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

      Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

      http://www.quittintime.com/

       

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        Matt | Dec 03, 2009 03:12am | #10

        Thanks.  That's what I needed to know.  I guess I will go with craft paper.

        1. calvin | Dec 03, 2009 03:57am | #11

          Sorry, I know how you wanted to roll out the red

          carpet.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

          Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

          http://www.quittintime.com/

           

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            Matt | Dec 03, 2009 04:51am | #12

            No prob - I'm just glad I didn't have to learn the hard way.

          2. calvin | Dec 03, 2009 04:55am | #13

            I know an oak guy that had that awakening. 

            Luckily the sanding took most of it out and the stain helped it disappear.

            But oh boy did the homowner have a coronary.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

            Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            http://www.quittintime.com/

             

          3. KFC | Dec 03, 2009 06:25am | #14

            Have you tried thermo-ply for floor protection?
            k

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          Jeff_Clarke | Dec 03, 2009 03:28pm | #15

          Building paper (asphalt) would be far better than kraft.

  6. cjeffrey | Dec 03, 2009 09:11pm | #16

    Flipping through a magazine at the store, May have been FHB I not usre.

    There was an ad for 1/16" cardboard on a roll. Seems it may be what you want.

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      Matt | Dec 04, 2009 03:39am | #17

      That is ramboard - IIRC it is $50 for a 39"x50' roll.  It's a good product but they gotta get the price down.

      Kraft: $.022 a sq ftFelt:   $.059 a sq ftRam:  $.30   a sq ft

      Anyway, it is a done deal now.  I covered it with Kraft which was enough to make it through the day and the plumbers. 

  7. Tricksofthetrade | Jan 30, 2024 06:14pm | #18

    I have in the past and continue to use Homosote boards. They can be purchased at the Home Depot. They are a bit pricey but offer unparalleled flooring protection as they are 1/2" thick, come in 4 x 8 sheets and are fairly easy to handle. They hold up very well which allows them to be used on several jobs for a good ROI. I have not seen them bleed or stain the surface that is being protected even when they get wet.

    1. calvin | Jan 30, 2024 06:32pm | #19

      2009
      A bit late for that job.
      BTW, how do you think it would have worked on exterior concrete as mentioned above?

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