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   Piffin | Jun 22, 2003 07:40pm | #1

   pre-rotted wood?

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   Excellence is its own reward!

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   rez | Jun 22, 2003 07:54pm | #2

   would go well with rusted drywall screws.

    

    

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   SamT | Jun 23, 2003 07:26am | #3

   And dried-in-the-tube Liquid NailSleepless in Columbia. Diurnal rhythm? What songs did they do?

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   BungalowJeff | Jun 23, 2003 07:35am | #4

   Perfect to hang cabinets with!...that's not a mistake, it's rustic

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   TheOldCynic | Jun 23, 2003 03:56pm | #5

   What ever it is, you can be sure it will be politically correct.

   Doc - The Old Cynic

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   GoldenWreckedAngle | Jun 23, 2003 08:12pm | #6

   The liberals felt that pressure treating wood was just too insensitive. They've now gone to a much gentler and more therapeutic form of treatment but it will be years before the wood is ready to face reality.

   In the mean time, someone suggested in my building with SIPs thread to use Trex in place of treated lumber for base plate material.

   Kevin Halliburton

   "I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity."  - I.M. Pei -

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   caseyr | Jun 23, 2003 11:16pm | #7

   A couple of replacements for CCA (chromium, copper, arsenate) that have been publicized are ACQ and Tim-BOR.  The news reports say that the new treatments will be "about 20% more expensive" (you didn't think it would get cheaper did you...).  The ACQ boards that I have seen looked quite a bit better than your standard CCA boards, but that was before CCA was to be "voluntarily" withdrawn, so perhaps the ACQ people were trying to create a specialty niche market. 

   I didn't look long enough to find a university sponsored comparison, so I'll list two commercial sites that at least give a little info:

   http://www.bbslumber.com/acq.html

   http://www.osmose.com/wood/usa/preserved/hi-bor/product/

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   JohnSprung | Jun 24, 2003 03:58am | #11

   ACQ seems to be the closest functional substitute for CCA.  The trouble with the borates is that they're water soluable, if the wood gets wet, they're gone.  There's also copper napthenate, such as Jasco's Termin-8, which can be field applied.  I use it for cut ends on treated Doug fir.

   -- J.S.

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   PeteBradley | Jun 24, 2003 07:28pm | #15

   Have you seen Zinc napthenate ("clear wood preservative") around lately? That was great stuff, and one one seems to carry it any more.

   Pete

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   BillHartmann | Jun 24, 2003 08:03pm | #16

   Jasco still list it.

   http://www.jasco-help.com/products/prod_wp.htm

   And a google indicates that there might be other sources, at least industrially.

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   PeteBradley | Jun 24, 2003 08:48pm | #17

   This is Copper-8-Quinolate. No personal experience, but I'm told it doesn't last like Zinc. I'll see what a web search turns up.

   Pete

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   BillHartmann | Jun 24, 2003 08:54pm | #18

   Look donw the page to the ZPW Clear Wood Preservative.

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   PeteBradley | Jun 24, 2003 10:23pm | #19

   That's the stuff! Thanks!

   Pete

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   DougU | Jun 24, 2003 03:11am | #10

   Kevin

   "The liberals felt that pressure treating wood was just too insensitive."

   Never miss an oportunity to turn an otherwise informative thread into something political.

   Doug

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   GoldenWreckedAngle | Jun 24, 2003 06:26am | #12

   Sorry, it has been a very, very long time since I yanked that chain. I thought the Trex was a great idea. Wish I'd have thought of it.Kevin Halliburton

   "I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity."  - I.M. Pei -

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   Flathead | Jun 24, 2003 05:47pm | #14

   Kevin,

   All we really need, is a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand.

   - Neil Young (paraphrased)

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   hasbeen | Jun 24, 2003 06:35am | #13

   Oh Kevin, you Republican...  <G>Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a carpenter to build one.

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   92588 | Jun 24, 2003 02:47am | #8

   cca .40 you can kiss my cancer future hopefully not. cant wait to get to the cedar. would you let your kid crawl on the shi....?

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   andybuildz | Jun 24, 2003 03:08am | #9

   Forget about assnic..I been eating asbestos since I was a teen ripping of asbestos siding from full houses...not to mention suckin' assnic saw dust.

   Can't ya see how brilliant that made me  : )~~

   Be uh uh uhhh

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