Putting Standing Seam on an “A” frame.
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Has anyone put metal on an A frame. The pitch is 20 in 12 and the panels will be 30 feet long.
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there was a thread here someone posted as a "job from hell", pretty sure it was an A frame metal roof. Do an advanced search, if you can't find it let me know, I'll try.
that was Dinosaur's job from several years back...
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Edited 2/12/2007 10:53 pm by IMERC
where did you hide yur A frame metal roof???Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Did Dinosaur ever get to put the metal roof on the A frame? I think I found the tread you were refering to http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=31006.1 .
If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,
Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,
I wouldn’t have to charge you!!
I'd missed that old introduction to the job thread back then. Thanks. View Image
be dang but that was a steep roof!
only life affirming platitudes allowed -Doud '07Would a full cluster of enemies be called an enema? -Piffin
Yep, that one was 25 in 12 if memory serves. Easy on the back but hard on the toes'n'ankles. And no place for setting down your coffee mug, dammit.
20 in 12's I walk, but I have to wear sneakers. I must be gettin' old.
Be Spiderman....Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
I hope you don't take it badly if I tell you you're completely insane.I'm not scared of heights, but THAT makes me want to hurl...
Dino isn't insane...
that was a phase he went thru a very long time ago..
he's much better than that...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
It actually wasn't that bad...except for when I had to trim the rake. Working on the roof itself, I was standing there facing the roof most of the time only an arm's length in front of me--a very comfortable working position, actually, and a lot easier than working on, say, a 3-in-12 where you're on your knees the whole time and bent over almost as low as if you were laying a floor.
But the rake was a PITA. This A-frame has a Swiss rake out front, with about a 30 degree angle to it, so the metal had to be trimmed once it was screwed down using a nibbler and shears. I couldn't place my roof jacks once the metal was on, so that part had to be done from scaffolding five layers high...and the house had a very narrow wooden deck out front which obliged me to use 30"-deep frames instead of standard 60-inchers.
Wobbly isn't even the word. I had to brace the staging with guy ropes running down to trees in the yard and toggled through the doorway on the house side.Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
>Wobbly isn't even the word.*shudder"
thats not a steep roof, its a slightly out of plumb wall!
Found it! Thanks IMERC
The A frame job from hell.
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=34292.1
As the guys mentioned, I put some screw-down pre-fab steel on the A-frame shown in that thread. I put down 3" of rigid PolyIso foam board and a 2x4 crib lag-screwed to the roof deck first as there was no insulation in the roof at all (2x6 roof decking exposed on the inside of the house). The panels were all 8' long, ± an inch or three (job lot steel bought by the HO), so we shingled them--which made things interesting until I figured out how to shingle down instead of up....
This wasn't real standing seam roofing, but if I can answer any questions about anything else involved, shoot.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not brought
low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
foolish men call Justice....
Ok, I'm wondering what you mean by 'so we shingled them'?
only life affirming platitudes allowed -Doud '07Would a full cluster of enemies be called an enema? -Piffin
Edited 2/13/2007 7:33 pm ET by rez
Just laid the panels down the roof like big shingles. I used about a foot of overlap.
Yeah, I said 'down.' Shingling up the roof meant I had no place to nail on the roof jacks once the lower panel was screwed in place, so I had to work from a 30' aluminum ladder laid over the steel and padded with an old blanket so it wouldn't scratch the paint. Major PITA. Major. Much easier to shingle down and slip the lower panel under the upper before screwing down the last row of screws.Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
Here is a pic of the one I will be working on.
If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,
Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,
I wouldn’t have to charge you!!
Keep trying, you can get.
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is today Saturday?
Sir...
the picture please...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
One more time....
If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,
Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,
I wouldn’t have to charge you!!
I got it now. Sorry for the F.U.
If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,
Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,
I wouldn’t have to charge you!!
Nice looking place; those dormers add a bit of interest to the job.
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As I said, that job I posted a few years ago was screw-down pre-fab steel, not true standing seam. SeeYou would be the best source for advice on the standing seam stuff, not me.
As for how to work on a roof that steep, your situation is a bit different than mine was in that I had 8' panels to lay on a 27' roof length, so I was able (once I figured it out) to shingle down the slope, thus allowing me to nail my roof jacks to the crib below the panels I was working on. You're going to be working with 30' panels; I assume this is the full roof length, so you'll be stuck laying a 30' ladder over the roofing material as you are attaching it.
Best advice is to pad the ladder rails every 6 feet or so with old carpet so it won't scratch the metal, and make sure you have a real solid base to set the ladder on.
Are you going to be insulating this roof on the outside before you put the metal on it? A lot of A-frames have exposed 'rafters' and use the underside of the roof decking as the ceiling...which doesn't leave any way to insulate the inside.Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
I did a cut test and there is 1" of styrofoam insulation on the roof deck already.
For me it's more of an issue of working on the steep pitch. Also battling the weather.
I guess it will be a hook ladder, roof jacks and planks. With plenty of streching and warm up's before I leave for work.
If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,
Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,
I wouldn’t have to charge you!!
You using true standing seam, snap lock, or face fastened metal?http://logancustomcopper.com
http://grantlogan.net/
It's like the whole world's walking pretty and you can't find no room to move. - the Boss
I married my cousin in Arkansas - I married two more when I got to Utah. - the Gourds
It will be a true standing seam. We bring the panel machine right out to the site and run the panels to whatever length we need.
It sure makes an awesome roof.
If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,
Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,
I wouldn’t have to charge you!!
Here's the best advise I can give you: If the terrain allows a boomlift or a forklift on the site, they will be worth every penny they cost if you know how to use them. From what I can see in the picture you've posted, I could do that job by myself with a boomlift and not a piece of scaffold or a ladder even. I've never used full length pans so that might be an issue in the solo work. Have fun.http://logancustomcopper.com
http://grantlogan.net/
It's like the whole world's walking pretty and you can't find no room to move. - the Boss
I married my cousin in Arkansas - I married two more when I got to Utah. - the Gourds
Oh, yeah--battling the weather. Tarping a job like that every night is about the most major PITA I can think of.
Black it in as you strip each section; then you can relax. At pitches that steep, felt will keep the rain out quite nicely.Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
those dormers add a bit of interest to the job.
those are there so you'll have a place to set yur coffee cup or yur butt at break time...
saves on having to get down off the roof so much....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Edited 2/15/2007 8:13 pm by IMERC
They think yer kidding but I know yer not!Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
yes... I was serious...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!