This is a power tool used for removing old window glazing and I was just wondering if anyone has one and if they are happy with it
http://www.amazon.com/Prazi-USA-PR9000-Putty-Chaser/dp/B0000224S8
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wow I just read the customer reviews and all were negative
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Edited 9/26/2008 9:23 am by Wichita_Realtor
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It dosen't work for shid with a cordless drill. Which is probably what most people were doing. Has to be a high speed drill and then it works OK, not great.
I have one. I used it once.
I also have a Wagner Power Roller, and a few other tools that I wouldn't sell to my worst competitor.
The concept of the Putty Chaser is OK, but in real-life work, it just doesn't perform well.
Wagner Power roller?
Is the power roller dead or you just don't like it? I've killed a few of those but actually like them. Even with the clean up time, I've found they're faster than a traditional roller and pan.
The only real complaint I have with them is that they die mysterious deaths. One day you pick it up and it doesn't work.
Edited 10/1/2008 12:00 pm ET by geoffhazel
It works just fine, but the reason I don't like it is that cleanup takes longer than the painting.
Its only been used once. You interested in it?
It works just fine, but the reason I don't like it is that cleanup takes longer than the painting.
Its only been used once. You interested in it?
Same here. The one time I used mine, I was painting a large condo and every room was the same color. It's definitely a time saver when you're running through several gallons in empty rooms, but I haven't had a job like that in a few years.
So, Geoffhazel, you need 2?
Fein Mutimaster, or putty burner/softener:View Image
sweet never heard of itThanksI may be doing 11 windows and don't want to do it all by handThanks again to everyone(formerly Mr. Fix It ;^0)
Got a link for that burner/heater? I gooooggled to no avail.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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http://www.dkhardware.com/category-947-heated-putty-softeners.html[email protected]
Thanks..ordering it right now. Cool.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Well, NOT cool..I callled and it is out of stock, has been for 4 months, purchaser cannot locate a manufacturer.
Any other Ideers?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Google electric putty softener.
Down at the bottom are 3 or 4 links to a place that it appears sells all the parts but not the device.
DK hardware.
Shopping results for electric putty softener
CRL Work Site Electric Putty Softener ...
$13.36 - DK Hardware
Work Site Electric Putty Softener ...
$13.50 - Intro Home ...
PSP56 - Work Site Electric Putty ...
$23.03 - Alestech.com[email protected]
The guy at DK said the manu is out of bidness..gotta find a different make.
I was fixing to tear apart a toaster and snag the ni-chrome wire and get a rheostat and make a frame up myself. I still may do that. Hardie siding for a heat shield and insulated stand offs.
I'll call it the 6 million dollar putty melter..LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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McCrae Blue Book?
Or ya gotta find some old dude window guy closing up shop.
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http://www.macraesbluebook.com/[email protected]
Nope. I even wentto the site CR Lawerance for it. it is a
CRL 5A1 Putty Softener Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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So who makes it?
Googling the manufacture should be easy enough.
Or they have those Blue Books of manufactures?[email protected]
Try silentpaintremover.com
Those are high dollar heat plates that break glass, BTDT.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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My boys and I repainted a cedar clapboard house this summer and were very pleased with the tool.We stripped all the paint and I used it to redo several old and fragile windows.A scrap of Al fascia material protects the glass and the old glazing comes off like soft butter.The Swedish glazing compound and paint from the same company are excellent, but pricey, materials.It allowed me to strip, glaze, and first coat in the same day. Don't forget the shellac under the glazing.
Good to hear , but it's outta my price range.
As to shellac under putty, I used to use boiled linseed oil, then went with Oil based primer..then skipped the putty all together. I mill azek glass stops that when painted look exactly like a top notch putty job, better actually. They are caulked in and pinned with 23ga SS pins. I hate putty.
Now if a pane breaks, pry out the stops with a thin knife, clean out the rabbet, and reinstall. About a 10 minute task.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Hey Sphere-Did you see the tool listed on CRL? http://www.crlaurence.com/ProductPages/4/4500_5833.html?Origin=I think I bought some from them back in my glazing days. Looks like only a glass shop could check on availability.......Another of my glazing suppliers had them, at least back 15 years ago. Colorado steel Sash Co. : http://www.coloradosteelsash.com/Last resort might be a regional glazing supplier (like Colorado). Maybe NOS?Sorry about the reference to these, looking MAYBE like a dead end. I wouldn't give up hope, though. These really are a great tool and beat the pants offa torches or heat guns 'cause they will concentrate the heat right at the putty rebate. Putty will slice right out of there with little chipping of the wood. A bit of wood burn here and there in my experience, but much better than trying to chip out rock hard putty.I still have an old generation Fletcher-Terry putty burner (found it unused in a pawn shop for $15, this is the hotrod of putty burners)that uses a coil element rather than the calrod as on the CRL unit. And, get THIS, the little slit in the tool to expose the heating element- the element is enclosed in blocks of solid asbestos. Guess there was a reason to stop making that particular tool.Maybe the Multimaster really is the best option..........good luck. Edit: According to Google, these guys used to have the newer tool in their catalogue: http://www.christyglass.com/
Edited 9/30/2008 11:58 pm by kenhill3
Thanks for the digging, I still don't see any available, but haven't really explored by calling..I get faster results on the fone usually.
Gonna keep at it.
Lucky for me, most of what I am working on is SO gone, the putty comes out with careful prying and a utility knife..after the glass is out, I heat gun it and get the stuck parts with a 5 in one and a few homemade scrapers.
Thanks again.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I've also heard the steam thing works well. Build a box, and steam the whole window. Removes all the paint plus the putty.I think the steam box instructions were on BT somewhere. But maybe OHJ.
Just try "Silent paint remover". I've heard there are even home made instructions floating around to build your own. Right up your alley!http://www.silentpaintremover.com/
They're not that great. A cheap 1/4" corded drill runs fast enough to operate it. It really 'bounces' when it hits a tight glazier's point, sometimes it just slings them out - wear safety glasses.
i bought one... tried it....chewed up a lot of muntins... but maybe it was just me
i did think it liked chasing softwood a lot more than rock hard putty
I've tried everything. I've come to the conclusion you cant beat an old soldering iron (one with the big tip). You can control where the heat goes so the glass doesn't break.
You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
What about a woodburner?http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38593(formerly Mr. Fix It ;^0)
It would work but not as good as the old type. I'll try to take a picture of mine tonight.You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
Here's what I use. I'll try to indicate the scale.
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You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
Edited 10/1/2008 8:35 pm by Marv
Edited 10/1/2008 8:36 pm by Marv
Hey thanks I appreciate itI'll try it outBut I was hoping someone would have some kind of system using a dremel type of toolhttp://www.dremel.com/en-us/Tools/Pages/ToolDetail.aspx?pid=10.8V+Lithium-ion+CordlessOr a hand held type of router http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=226729-353-PR20EVSK&lpage=noneI was looking for something along the lines of a dentist drilling in a toothI would carve around the perimeter of the glass kind of like a dentist doing a filling or root canal(formerly Mr. Fix It ;^0)
But I was hoping someone would have some kind of system using a dremel type of tool
The problem with all power tools is the dust. Old caulk is full of lead and when it becomes airborne you've got a problem.
Even with the soldering iron, I wonder about the smoke.
You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
Edited 10/2/2008 8:56 am by Marv
I was trying to remember where I had seen a soldering iron like yoursAnd it was in a high school shopWe used it to melt shellac wood filler like this http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5531(formerly Mr. Fix It ;^0)
There was an article in JLC last summer (2007) about reglazing and refurbishing old windows.
The guy used one of those infrared heaters to soften the paint and putty at the same time. I seem to recall he left it over the window for a minute or two then moved it to the next section while scraping the first. He protected the glass with a foil covered piece of hardboard.
Try this http://www.silentpaintremover.com/
Edited 10/1/2008 6:05 pm ET by fingers
Thanks for your infoI don't mind doing it the slow way if it's just one windowBut if I am going to do 10-11 windows I need the best tools and equipment I can lay my grubby hands on(formerly Mr. Fix It ;^0)
How about STEAM ?http://historichomeworks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133
That is almost as fast as watching paint dry.