FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Quality remains long after price

| Posted in General Discussion on July 28, 2005 04:42am

Remember that saying?  The quality remains long after the price is forgotten.  Isn’t that the mantra that we all strive for?  And one of the reasons we don’t feel ashamed to ask decent money for good results.

I am getting  close to the end of a project, down to touch-up painting, door knobs, switchplates, etc.  And this part of the work gets me close to the sheetrock again, and it remionds me how pi$$ed I am about two sub that works for me.  My bloodpressure rises every time I think about it.  The rockers were absolute bozos, way oiut of their league.  But at least the cost was right, cuz I payed them way less than they asked.  It was like ‘take this and don’t ever come back’.

But the mud guy … that’s a different story.  Ross was his name.  He came in on a recommendation of sorts, and basically screwed me and the project.  He was in way, way too much of a hurry, took lots of short cuts, and said the primer and paint would cover all of the blemishes.  Yeah, right.  And, on top of that, he charged a premium price.  I almost choked when he named the price.  My fault, we didn’t agree up front, and my understanding was that he was looking for a small job (90 sheets in my case) to break into the market, so i thought he would be reasonable.  Not only was it not reasonable, it was highway robbery.

Without a doubt, the conditio of the walls and ceilings are by far the worst part of this project.  BTW, this is the one in the photo section under ‘my floor’ and ‘my ceiling’.

Well, I feel better now that I’ve said that.  Doesn’t help the sheetrock, but I still feel better for having ranted a little.  And if any of you ever happens to talk with Ross, give him my worst.

 

I’m sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.

Reply
  • X
  • facebook
  • linkedin
  • pinterest
  • email
  • add to favorites Log in or Sign up to save your favorite articles

Replies

  1. RalphWicklund | Jul 28, 2005 06:08am | #1

    You didn't pay him up front, did you? Made him redo the job to your satisfaction BEFORE PAYING?

    1. FastEddie1 | Jul 28, 2005 06:33am | #2

      I paid him when he said he was done, which was after the second coat ... he said he was good enough that a third coat wasn't needed.  It had not been sanded at that time ... the second dsanding and the primer paint revealed lots of problems.  He left town then ... actually he left the state.  He was referred to me by a person I met through Breaktime.

       I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.

  2. davidmeiland | Jul 28, 2005 07:16am | #3

    Is this beyond the point of getting someone else in to skim and sand the walls, and then repaint them? I'd have to do that if it were any of my customers. I'd probably think about locking the original sheetrockers in the porta-potty and then pushing it over, or some other juvenile behavior.

    Seriously, it can happen to any of us, and you just have to suck it up, pay for another round, and move on to the next one. And never pay any sub until you have thoroughly scrutinized their work. Make up some excuse about how you have to go back to the computer and print their check.

  3. User avater
    JeffBuck | Jul 28, 2005 08:06am | #4

    last project with a good bit of drywall ...

    got a "great guy" to come in. Refered by one of my best friends ... who knows all the great subs. Never let me down before ...

     

    so ... this guy comes in at framing ... quotes a price ... coupla weeks later ... he's ready to start ... "oh, the price is almost double" ... I was stuck at the last minute ...

    so I said what ever .. just start and finish on time.

    had plans to go out of town for the holidays ... left his "final check" ... had the HO give it to him on his last day ... came back ... saw I got ripped off.

    his final check was $800 ..

     

    and that's exactly what it cost me to get the whole place re-skimmed.

     

    he never did answer my calls ... my buddy came by ... looked ... just had to say Sorry ... and he was actually planning on using the guy the following week! Had prices and everything .. until .. he saw his latest work.

    called the next day ... said the guy stopped by his site to fight ... after he got the call he lost the job ... stinking drunk crying about his wife leaving him ... business bankrupt ... etc. He decided to leave when my buddy said if he wanted to fight he'd call me and let me know where he was. He was sober enough to know he had the money and was ahead of the game ...neither of us have heard from him since.

    On the plus side ... I lucked into finding the guys that did the final cost ... HO went from thinking I was an idiot to thinking I was a savior ... as he wanted "as good as the upstairs" ... and in the end ... he said time and time again ... Upstairs was as good a drywall as he'd seen ... till his basement was finished.

    bad part ... the "good guys" .. said they'd have done it for the very first price quoted!

    so ... I only lost $1,600 .. and time ... and ... and ...

    But hell ... that was over a year ago. I'da lost that $1,600 by now anyways?

     

    that's why we make the big bucks ... right? Or why someone makes the big bucks ...not us at this rate.

    Jeff

        Buck Construction

     Artistry In Carpentry

         Pittsburgh Pa

    1. FastEddie1 | Jul 28, 2005 03:32pm | #5

      There's an ad running on the radio frequently, one of those credit fix-it companies.  They know how to do it, and banks don't want to tell you the secret process.  We're here to help you ... we're a non-profit company ... call today.

      So?  I'm a non-profit company too.

       I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

Outdoor Lighting

Lighting up an exterior isn't just about ambiance— it's also about code compliance. Here is what the code says about safety and efficiency when it comes to outdoor lighting.

Featured Video

How to Install Exterior Window Trim

Learn how to measure, cut, and build window casing made of cellular PVC, solid wood, poly-ash boards, or any common molding material. Plus, get tips for a clean and solid installation.

Related Stories

  • A Grand Rescue on the Coast
  • How Trump's “Big Beautiful Bill” Will Affect the Inflation Reduction Act
  • A Drip-Free, Through-Window Heat Pump
  • Podcast Episode 690: Sharpening, Wires Behind Baseboard, and Fixing Shingle Panels

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 332 - July 2025
    • Custom Built-ins With Job-Site Tools
    • Fight House Fires Through Design
    • Making the Move to Multifamily
  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Old House Journal – August 2025
    • Designing the Perfect Garden Gate
    • Old House Air-Sealing Basics
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

  • Home Group
  • Antique Trader
  • Arts & Crafts Homes
  • Bank Note Reporter
  • Cabin Life
  • Cuisine at Home
  • Fine Gardening
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Green Building Advisor
  • Garden Gate
  • Horticulture
  • Keep Craft Alive
  • Log Home Living
  • Military Trader/Vehicles
  • Numismatic News
  • Numismaster
  • Old Cars Weekly
  • Old House Journal
  • Period Homes
  • Popular Woodworking
  • Script
  • ShopNotes
  • Sports Collectors Digest
  • Threads
  • Timber Home Living
  • Traditional Building
  • Woodsmith
  • World Coin News
  • Writer's Digest
Active Interest Media logo
X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

Enjoy unlimited access to Fine Homebuilding. Join Now

Already a member? Log in

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in

Privacy Policy Update

We use cookies, pixels, script and other tracking technologies to analyze and improve our service, to improve and personalize content, and for advertising to you. We also share information about your use of our site with third-party social media, advertising and analytics partners. You can view our Privacy Policy here and our Terms of Use here.

Cookies

Analytics

These cookies help us track site metrics to improve our sites and provide a better user experience.

Advertising/Social Media

These cookies are used to serve advertisements aligned with your interests.

Essential

These cookies are required to provide basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website.

Delete My Data

Delete all cookies and associated data