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   Sphere | Jul 31, 2004 02:27pm | #1

   you are aware that QS maple is not common eh?

   QS in ring porus species is desireable for flooring due to radial/tangential shrinkage, ring porus woods move a lot in these planes...

   Maple is Diffuse porus. there fore it is not as much of an issue..therefore Maple is not regularly QSawn...the method of QSawing increases waste considerably, and time...hence the higher cost usually.

   You can get a boat load of flat sawn, and pick and cull out the QS pcs. and see what I mean.

    

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   HeavyDuty | Jul 31, 2004 08:06pm | #2

   but... all my maple closet poles are quarter sawn... cost me an arm and a leg.

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   Sphere | Jul 31, 2004 09:26pm | #5

   I remember you...lol

   The old Stephen Wright joke comes to mind..

   sittin on a bus and meeting a stranger, he asks how the guy is, the guy says "great, just got outta prison"

   SW says "what ya in for?"

   The guy says "pushing a total stranger offa ferris wheel"

   SW says " OH, I remember you,..." 

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   HeavyDuty | Aug 01, 2004 02:35am | #9

   OH, you mean you're the guy who sold me those premium QS maple closet poles?

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   MisterT | Aug 03, 2004 01:12pm | #14

   I bought some of those!

   But I had to take em back!!!

   when I got to the job they were flatsawn!!!

   Farkin Lowes!!!Mr T

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   ClevelandEd | Jul 31, 2004 08:42pm | #3

   Now I understand why the maple in this house is dimensionally stable. 

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   Sphere | Jul 31, 2004 09:22pm | #4

   think bowling alley... 

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   JohnT8 | Aug 05, 2004 12:58am | #23

   Just have to wait for the local bowling alley to have a demolition auction.  Hopefully they didn't glue it down.  But I'm thinking that would take quite a few alleys to come up with 7k sq ft!

   But if that doesn't cover it, just think, "high school gym floor".  Frankly I think everyone needs a free throw line in the dinning room.

   JT..

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   Sphere | Aug 05, 2004 02:41am | #24

   Whoa dude, my budddy got the lanes from a dfunct alley..that sid has a ton of metal..2.5'' thick , t&g..with the eq. of 20D nails..in the lams.

   BTW, it's 1/4 sawn....{G}

   made his front porch floor from it...nasty on blades.. 

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 01, 2004 01:40am | #7

   There're couple of reasons I'm asking.

   1. I like the appearance of the product, uniform, light colored, and I assume stable. I'm naturally assuming the QS is stable.

   2. The price I found locally is outrageous, $8+/sf.

   butch

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   bill_1010 | Jul 31, 2004 09:41pm | #6

   if you want the look of a QS maple consider bamboo flooring. Its has the same coloring  and it gives the view of QS.  WHile its not maple its probably a closer resemblance to what your after.

   flat sawn maple is quite stable and has little color difference in its early and late wood stages to not be that noticable. Whereas oak, ash, pine and others have very distinct color variations in the early and late wood.

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 01, 2004 01:50am | #8

   VG bamboo was the first material I looked at. Friends are installing it in their house. The only problem it that it's prefinished and has micro v-groove joints. As with most Chinese products, their quality control isn't that great so there are small spaces when the adjacent piece isn't milled to the same width. They followed directions in aclimating the wood in the house for more than a week before attempting installation.

   Also looked at some African products (Iroko) but the color is too dark. Also Austrailian but also too dark. VG white oak appeals to my taste based on color, durability, stability, and also the "rays" that are visible in VG compared to FG.

   However, so far VG maple seems to have all the qualities except for price.

   BTW, the quantity needed would be more than 6500 sf.

   butch

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   HeavyDuty | Aug 01, 2004 02:44am | #10

   6500 sf? That hurts.

   Just wondering how much you can get VG white oak? I like the look of it but I don't think it's much cheaper than VG maple. Be prepared to see the maple showing more movement than oak and for a light color wood the gap shows. Just have to accept it.

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   AdamB | Aug 04, 2004 02:37pm | #19

   BTW Bamboo can be had in a finish in place style, no grooves.  And let it aclimate longer than a week.

   Adam

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 04, 2004 09:25pm | #21

   Any names for sources?

   butch

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   xman | Aug 04, 2004 09:40pm | #22

   Rare Earth Hardwoods in Michigan will probably have it

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 05, 2004 10:19am | #25

   Thanks will contact them.

   butch

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   HARDWOODGUY | Aug 11, 2004 03:26am | #26

   What's the budget Butch?

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 12, 2004 05:13am | #27

   No specific number yet. Looking for something "reasonable." So far I found 3/8" QS white oak for about $3.50/sf. Considering 3/8ths would be half the shipping weight of 3/4" and for Hawaii that would add some savings.

   butch

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   AdamB | Aug 12, 2004 02:32pm | #28

   http://www.teragren.com/teragren.asp

   and maybe http://www.hawabamboo.com/ but you'd need to call tham

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 12, 2004 09:59pm | #29

   The Teragren site looks interesting, especially the site finished material.

   Will keep it on file.

   butch

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   JK | Aug 01, 2004 04:21am | #11

   Northland Forest Products [603.642.8275] in Brentwood NH has it.

   $6.80 a square foot for quantites over 500 square feet.

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 01, 2004 05:03am | #12

   Thanks, I was just scouring the web and found several sites.

   Looking at the prices compared to white oak and its stability, I think I'll have to reconsider my options.

   Thanks again.

   butch

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   HARDWOODGUY | Aug 03, 2004 01:05pm | #13

   Butch:

   There's an engineered prefinished quarter sawn Maple manufactured by WFI. Square edge too! I know what some are thinking. Engineered..yea right. Guys, engineered floors have changed quite a bit over the last few years. The WFI product has a solid sawn wear layer of 1/8" that can be refinished several times. However in order to obtain this the subfloor has to be pretty darned flat. Priced around eight bucks a square foot 9/16" x 3" and 5"

   Other engineered products of even better quality is the Studio B sold by Bruce. Yes Bruce! In general I dislike Bruce but this one is in a league of it's own--and is not manufactured in their facilities. Prefinished square edge with a solid sawn 1/4" wear layer--priced in the $ 8.50 range to $11.50(Teak) European hardwoods and Asian exotics.

   Ken Fisher

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 03, 2004 11:19pm | #15

   I'm afraid the stuff is too pricey. I'm going to need nearly 7K sf.

   butch

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   maverick | Aug 04, 2004 03:33am | #16

   Give a call to Conway hardwoods in Gaylordsville Ct. They specialize in custom milled specialty hardwoods.

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 04, 2004 07:53am | #17

   Thanks, found their phone number and will give them a call tomorrow.

   butch

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   PatMcG | Aug 04, 2004 12:47pm | #18

   Sandy Pond Hardwoods, Quarryville, PA produces fancy grained hardwoods to include maple. Maybe they will be reasonable on regular grain stuff? Also, try Groff & Groff Hardwoods of Quarryville for maple and white oak.

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   KaneoheBay | Aug 04, 2004 09:24pm | #20

   Thanks, will look for their phone number.

   butch