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Questions about wiring in older house

prout35 | Posted in General Discussion on June 29, 2012 03:59am

House built in 1917. Partly rewired to current standards. Two questions about the rest of the wiring. (1) some Knob and Tube, must I replace? (2) some of the wiring is labeled (General Cable 12/2 with ground), the outer core looks like it is woven with a green color. How old is this cable? Is it safe?

Thanks.

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  1. [email protected] | Jun 29, 2012 06:01pm | #1

    Depends on the condition

    I know that sounds, smarmy when I say it, but: 

    If the insulation is still flexible and intact, it is still good.  The older woven insulations will become brittle over time, and some of the cloth/shellace onces will actually start to break off.  They can also be eaten by crickets. 

  2. DanH | Jun 29, 2012 08:38pm | #2

    The old K&T should generally

    The old K&T should generally be replaced as the opportunity presents itself (even though it may be perfectly sound and safe), since some insurance companies frown on it and some inspectors will downgrade a house because of it.

    There are several generations of the cable with the woven cover.  Yours isn't the oldest since it has a ground, so it's probably at least "post-war".  The size of the uninsulated ground conductor is one indicator of age -- early cables had very lightweight ground wires, though I could only guess at the points where things changed.  (I'm thinking that the fabric-covered cable was replaced with plastic-covered stuff about 1960.)

    One thing to look at with the cables is the rubber-coated wire inside.  In some cases the inside insulation is very brittle and crumbling, making it probably more of a hazard than the K&T.  (This is especially a problem inside light fixtures where the heat does a number on the wiring.)

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      xxPaulCPxx | Jul 01, 2012 10:40pm | #3

      My track home in SoCal built in 1960 has all fabric covered wire.  The green had the ground, the silver was just 2 conductor.

      Oh, and the jackets has asbestos in them too.

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