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Recessing indoor electrical outlet in hardwood floor VS recessed in brick???

COamateur | Posted in Construction Techniques on September 25, 2020 11:48am
Hello! I need to install 2 new outlets in my living room — an 1887 brick home that we are gradually remodeling. I don’t want to do any surface mounted boxes b/c of the historic aesthetic. So I see my options as:

  1. Floor outlets recessed into the hardwood floors, or
  2. Wall outlets recessed/chiseled into the perimeter walls, which are a mortar/plaster mix directly over brick (no lathe).

This is on the first floor w/ a basement below for access to run wire. I don’t love the idea of floor outlets in case furniture layouts ever change…but chiseling out brick isn’t fun either. Which would you do?

Thanks for any help!

 
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  1. calvin | Sep 25, 2020 01:35pm | #1

    Do you have a tall baseboard?
    At locations you want, box out enough to install the shallowest “old work” metal box to meet code.

    Like this below.....

    Run up through the floor within this box out of your basebd and into the outlet box. If you’re lucky with access below and can bore your hole up into your basebd, your box out might be minimal out from the original base board.

    Be easy to explain in person......

    Check this very handy type of box.

    410

    By Raco
    Categories: Switch Boxes

    3 in. x 2 in. Switch Box, 1-1/2 in. Deep, NMSC Clamps, Plaster Ears
    Specifications

    410
    Certifications

    LEED Statement
    NEMA OS1
    UL COC - E195978-18

    Many depths and gangable with extensions.

    Here’s an attachment hopefully ......

    https://www.hubbell.com/raco/en/search?text=Raco+old+work+box&style=list&pageSize=60&sort=relevance&q=Raco+old+work+box%3Arelevance%3AFV_Gangable%3AYes

    1. COamateur | Sep 25, 2020 01:50pm | #2

      Thanks Calvin. Now that I'm looking at it more closely, the baseboards really are going to be an issue. They are in great shape (so I'd prefer not to remove them)...but they are about 9" tall. So creating a wire path behind them will be a real challenge.

      1. calvin | Sep 25, 2020 03:53pm | #5

        I don’t want you to remove them, just jut out a complementary “box” to allow you to install one of those old work boxes I showed. So it’s fastened to the basebd, holds the electric box, stained or painted to match, shoe mold to match and perhaps s complimentary trim on to and/or sides. The wiring would come up within that box out from below. Make it look as if the base jogged out and back.

        Mikes idea is great, Metal flush floor box w/covers.

        Best of luck!

  2. mgmahan | Sep 25, 2020 02:29pm | #3

    Why not put floor outlets as close to the wall as possible in the same locations that you would normally put a wall outlet. Rearranging the furniture would be the same as if you used wall outlets.

    1. COamateur | Sep 25, 2020 03:05pm | #4

      Great thought! Thanks mgmahan!

  3. JohnClark1782 | Sep 25, 2020 08:16pm | #6

    If you can get at the underside easily I'd go with floor units. I just installed two Leviton pop up units in my house. Fairly affordable and even have built in USBs. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RGRKSQZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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