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   rez | Jul 05, 2008 10:16pm | #1

   Greetings susie,

   This post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again which will increase it's viewing.

   Perhaps it will catch someone's attention that can help you with advice.

   Cheers

    

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   susiekitchen | Jul 07, 2008 10:43pm | #7

   Thanks for the bump!

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   Gene_Davis | Jul 05, 2008 10:30pm | #2

   You apparently mean something beside the usual tambour roll-up.

   If you mean a door hinged at top fitted with "easy lift, then stay up until you push me back down" fittings, you will get far more looks from bona fide cabinet makers by posting this over in the "cabinetmaking" forum at Woodweb.

   I believe you are looking for something like Blum's Aventos HL kit.

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   susiekitchen | Jul 07, 2008 10:45pm | #8

   Thanks for the Woodweb info.

   I have been looking at the Blum Aventos HL. I've never used it before; someone on woodweb should be able to give me some feedback.

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   CapnMac | Jul 06, 2008 12:35am | #3

   Gene recommended the Blum before I could.  It's a good unit.  With a codicil.

   Most lifts are designed for cabinet doors vertically mounted at shoulder height and above, or for horizontal mounting at waist level and below.  So, they either have a ±70º maximum openining or a flat 90º opening.

   But, and appliance garage, by and large really "wants" a door that will swing up and around, say 160-170º

   What would be really cool, in my book, would be a set of guides that let the door come out 1-2" then slide vertically up out of the way.

   Only other neat solution I found, in years of casework design, was to modify a flipper (slide-away) door guide for top mounting instead of side mounting (which was sometimes less elegant, too). 

   "Barrister bookcase" door hinges/guides sometimes worked, too--but, you wound up cluttering the top ofthe appliance garage with runners/blocking to carry the guides, at least in the classic pentagonal corner appliance garage.

   Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
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   susiekitchen | Jul 07, 2008 10:58pm | #9

   In this particular instance the out 1-2" and up is the best solution. I can get that with the Salice, not sure about the Blum. The placement for this garage is a bit odd - it sits next to an oven cabinet that is right beside a peninsula. The garage is on the leg of the peninsula and it's pulled forward as far as possible, which leaves it at a depth of 21".

   We used it to take advantage of some wasted space to store infrequently-used appliances, but the owner decided to try the coffee pot there and loves it.

   We tried 2 standard doors, but the one beside the oven cab is just enough in the way when open. I don't want to try one single door, as I think it's sure to pull on the hinges too much and start to drop. So the straight up open seems best.

   I had considered using the pocket door hardware, but you do lose the space required for the mechanism, plus the door when open. Looked like it was going to keep the coffee pot from sliding under.

   Thanks for reminding me about the barrister bookcase idea!

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   CapnMac | Jul 09, 2008 12:10am | #11

   Thanks for reminding me about the barrister bookcase idea!

   No sweat.  Makes a nifty way to "door" a shallow pantry space, and supports just about any panel type a person could want to specify, from wood to expanded metal mesh to punched tin io transluscent acrylic to glass, too.

   Which can be a good compromise for when the clients want "behind doors" and "visible" too.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   waterhouse | Jul 06, 2008 04:34am | #4

   If you don't want to spend a bunch of money you could use regular euro cup hinges like Blum clip tops and a brace like the Hafele at http://www.hafele.com/us/products/11515.asp. It sounds more expensive than it is. Any decent hardware supplier will probably stock them. The whole hardware set should cost you less than $40.

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   susiekitchen | Jul 07, 2008 11:00pm | #10

   Thanks for the info.

   I had checked out the Haefele, always my first choice for specialty hardware. Since my door has to go up vertically and clear the cabinet, I'm going to have to go with the Blum or maybe reinvent's Salice.

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   reinvent | Jul 06, 2008 04:45am | #5

   Take a look at these:

   http://www.salice.com/uk/novita.htm

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   susiekitchen | Jul 07, 2008 10:42pm | #6

   Thanks for the link. I can never remember that mfr, tho I've seen their products for years!

   I'll compare it to the Blum series and see what works best.