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remington powder tool misfires?

| Posted in Tools for Home Building on September 1, 2003 07:27am

All:

I have a Remington powder actuated fastening tool – model 494 – the pistol style one with the orange handle.  Single shot.  The problem is that is misfires – probably about 50% of the time.  When I say misfire, I mean, load tool, position board or whatever is to be fastened, press tool muzzle very firmly against board etc, pull trigger, and nothing but “klick”.  Tool is about 6 months old as are the loads.  It did it some when it was new but has gotten worse.  Probably have only shot about 100 nails out of it. 

Your thoughts and expierence are apreciated.

 

Matt
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    SamT | Sep 01, 2003 07:53pm | #1

    My unSWAG is that you need anew firing pin spring.

    SamT

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  2. PhillGiles | Sep 01, 2003 08:01pm | #2

    When my Remington misfires it's usually because I carelessly left the box of loads open in the basement and they got damp. Don't know if that's your problem (the trouble-shooting guide has all kinds of suggestions, from weak spring, short pin, needs cleaning and lubrication, through to bad loads)

    .

    Phill Giles

    The Unionville Woodwright

    Unionville, Ontario

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    briankeith | Sep 01, 2003 08:41pm | #3

    My first inclination would be to buy a box of fresh new loads and try it out.

    There should be a very clear nick in the rim on the brass load if it is working properly. But remember that great care is needed in handling misfired loads.

    Safety First!

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  4. luvmuskoka | Sep 02, 2003 01:07am | #4

    Lightly clamp a load in a small vise. Squarely smack load with small ball peen hammer. If load fires..... it's your firing pin.

    Ditch

    1. Jeff | Sep 02, 2003 01:47am | #5

      Bad idea.

      Jeff

      1. luvmuskoka | Sep 02, 2003 04:11am | #6

        Yeah...wear eye protection.Ditch

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          briankeith | Sep 02, 2003 04:18am | #7

          Even better safety tip.

          Don't Do That!!!!View Image

          1. luvmuskoka | Sep 02, 2003 01:45pm | #9

            It was a freakin' joke okay????? A JOKE!!!! Lighten up newbies!Ditch

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            briankeith | Sep 02, 2003 03:01pm | #10

            Oh, it was joke?

            My bad, somehow I missed the humor.

            Sorry.View Image

          3. FastEddie1 | Sep 02, 2003 03:48pm | #11

            Back when I was a young teen, I went to visit my cousin in Tennessee, and we were hanging (probablky not the correct term for the time) with some of his friends.  One of them produced a Daisy bb gun and a box of 22's, shorts I think cuz they were little bitty bullets, but I was a city slicker so what did I know...  Kid proceeds to point the Daisy stright up, balance a 22 on the end of the barrel, and pull the trigger...a little pop and it was gone.   Did it several times and nevber did find the brass.

            Had a nother cousin, lived in rural New Hampshire, when he was a teen he took a shotgun shell, clamped it in a vice and sawed it open with a hacksaw.  It went off and took parts of 2-3 fingers.

            Do it right, or do it twice.

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            briankeith | Sep 02, 2003 05:35pm | #12

            Those were the exact images that were running thru my mind when I said, "Don't Do It".

            But that was before I realized the suggestion of peening the round was a joke.

            My Dad has told me stories about taping the .22 rounds to the end of the BB gun. Always followed by the disclaimer, "damn that was dumb".View Image

          5. dIrishInMe | Sep 02, 2003 06:15pm | #13

            Thanks guys...  I'll see about disasembling it to check the firing pin; when I looked at the info that came with it, it looked pretty simple, and get some new loads.

            Matt

          6. VaTom | Sep 03, 2003 04:58am | #17

            I use a Hilti but I've never had any problem with old loads, including Remingtons.  Acquired some loads recently that were sitting around Florida so long the shells are green.  No misfires.  I think you have a gun problem.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

          7. dIrishInMe | Sep 03, 2003 02:33pm | #18

            Actually - that was my first thought: Shoulda bought a Hilti...Matt

          8. VaTom | Sep 03, 2003 08:36pm | #19

            Actually - that was my first thought: Shoulda bought a Hilti...

            Well, I wasn't gonna say anything.  But now that you've brought it up, ebay usually has the older Hiltis for 60 bucks, often with pins and loads.  I don't know if you can actually wear one out.  We haven't been able to.  No offense intended, but I wouldn't bother to fix a Remington.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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            JeffBuck | Sep 04, 2003 12:41am | #20

            Rem shot is way easier to buy than Hilti....

            That's what made my mind up....

            I have the same gun(I think) bought it when it first came out .....been using it for years ..no problems......though I am due for a rebuild ....

            that kits are cheap and the rebuilding is simple....

            JeffBuck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

             Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite                  

          10. VaTom | Sep 04, 2003 02:32am | #21

            Lowe's, and every other home center around here, has everything you need to run a Hilti, unless you want to shoot steel, as I often do.  They don't stock pins for steel but the concrete ones are OK, Remingtons IIRC.  Loads are loads.  Like I said, I've used Remingtons, just so long as they're .27 shorts.  No way would I pay the prices the Hilti rep gets for either loads or pins.  It's all readily available elsewhere.

            There's a large difference in the guns.  I've had a Remington, no more.  PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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      jimmyk | Sep 02, 2003 07:12pm | #14

      A non-chambered .22 round would explode about as much as a fire cracker...still a bang, but not nearly as dangerous as most people think. If you kept your fingers away and wore safety glasses and hearing protection, your idea would actually be plenty safe for testing. No joking.

      1. luvmuskoka | Sep 02, 2003 07:24pm | #15

        The idea really was inspired by a friend who re-loads. He once handed out shells to every one when clay target shooting. Nobody but him was hitting anyhting...until my dad realized that they were empty loads. We all had a good laugh.Ditch

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          JeffBuck | Sep 03, 2003 03:57am | #16

          I've done that before.....

          sober too!

          Not nearly as exciting or death defying as intended....

          harder to make it go bang than expected too.....

          the bent shells went into the fire pit....

          hey, it wasn't my house ......

          Sure Dave...let's burn 'em!

          Ahh...the things we do in the name of science.....

          JeffBuck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

           Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite                  

  5. proptech | Sep 02, 2003 06:26am | #8

    I have the same model and found that if you take gun apart and remove fireing pin you will find that it needs cleaned. take some emery cloth to the pin and use gun oil when you reasemble. Also make sure that the buffer ring and o-ring are in good shape.

       Proptech

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