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Replicating Old Mouldings

oolong86 | Posted in Tools for Home Building on December 29, 2003 12:20pm

I have to duplicate an old moulding with a 2″ roundover radius.  A router seems out of the question as the largest bit is 1 1/2″.  Does anybody know of a moulding cutter & knives that can do the trick, or any other way to approach this?

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  1. andybuildz | Dec 29, 2003 12:55am | #1

    make a copy of a crosscut section of the molding.send it out to Williams and Hussey or whom ever (theres dozens of companies) to make you a blade for your shaper or W&H molder /planer.

    BE well

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  2. Shep | Dec 29, 2003 01:44am | #2

           How much moulding do you need? I've made short lengths (6-8') with just handplanes to match old trim.

    1. oolong86 | Dec 29, 2003 03:32am | #3

      Forgot to add that the moulding cutter is for a table saw.  Will a knife for a 2" roundover fit in a table saw?  30 feet is a bit to much to do accurately by hand.

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        Sphere | Dec 29, 2003 04:17am | #4

        Don't try to do it on a tablesaw. period. if you found a 3 wing cutter that size (which I am sure you will not) it would either selfdestruct or wreck you saws arbor / trunnions.

        I would rip off the majority of the waste on the saw, and handplane to final..make a template/gauge from sheetmetal and plane away..a curved scraper ( your Sharpened template) cleans up the facets..bada bing done in no time.

        There are old moulding planes that cut 5" crown (and larger) that the Joiners would SIT on and get pulled down the length of soon to be moulding by a horse..so you have it EASY.

  3. migraine | Dec 29, 2003 04:25am | #5

    You can buy router bits up to about 3" radius.  The larger radius bits are 2 piece sets

    1. oolong86 | Dec 30, 2003 05:11pm | #7

      Any leads on where these I can get large bits?

      The latest solution is to apply large radius 1/4 round, attached to the appropriate size rectangular stock.

      1. reinvent | Dec 30, 2003 05:44pm | #8

        The largest router bits that I know of only go up to 11/2 "r. If you have a shaper with a 11/4" spindle then you can get carbide shaper cutters from Freeborntool.com that size. They dont sell direct but they can tell you where a local distributor is.

      2. migraine | Dec 30, 2003 08:30pm | #9

        I don't remember the brand, Maybe "Amana"

        Try http://www.ddtool.com

        Or http://www.ballewsaw.com

        Largest radius bit that one shop That I worked for was 3".  This is radius, not diameter

        Largest one I have at the is 2"(I think).  It's packed away in a box somewhere and no way to look for it until I get my shop built.

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        Sphere | Dec 31, 2003 12:55am | #10

        check out those places for "STAIR HANDRAIL SETS" I think they come as a set, pricy and maybe not quite what you need.

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    james | Dec 29, 2003 06:53am | #6

    depending where you are at you could take a piece to a speciality mill and have them do a run of it, here in San Francisco I spend about a 150 set up fee with the mill and then they charge by the foot, that piece would run you less than 200.00, I think a quality router bit for that would approach that price... not to mention the labor running around trying to find it, and finally milling the piece then spending the time tuning the piece..... send it out and be sure to mark it up to cover your time

    James

  5. PhillGiles | Dec 31, 2003 01:28am | #11

    Call around to some of your local stair/cabinet shops and see it they'd be willing to run it off for you at a reasonable charge.

    But I am curious, is this really 2" thick molding, or is there only a small slice of round-over ?

    .

    Phill Giles

    The Unionville Woodwright

    Unionville, Ontario

    1. oolong86 | Jan 02, 2004 04:35pm | #12

      The piece I'm duplicating is the middle section (1 3/8" h x 2 3/4" w) of a three piece door & window casement. The top of the radius has been sliced off to fit the final trim, which I have plenty of. My solution, while not an an exact replica, uses 2 1/4 rnds. on each side with a 5/16" thick flat stock on the bottom, coved on outside edge. A rectangular stock fills the space between the 2 1/4 rnds. Painted & in place it should fit right in with the rest, apart from the lack of 150 years of wear & tear.

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