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   DDay | May 13, 2006 03:48am | #1

   bump

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   simirick | May 13, 2006 09:40am | #2

   Bump? Yeah and your point is? Look down are you wearing clown shoes?

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   Huck | May 13, 2006 10:35am | #3

   "bump" is a way of bringing your posted question back up from obscurity for review of current visitors to the forum, who might otherwise miss it.  Its a way for someone to help you in your quest for an answer, even if they themselves don't know the answer.

   edited to add: You in Simi Valley?  I'm in Bakersfield, my brother lives in Simi Valley, did a few remodels over there for friends of his.  Don't know the answer to your ques., but "comp" has come a long way, some very nice looking comp shingles out there, attractive and long lasting too.  Personally I'd like to try one of those artificial slate roofs, they look so cool!  Metal seems so utilitarian to me, but could be attractive in a rural setting.

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   Edited 5/13/2006 3:38 am by Huck

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   simirick | May 14, 2006 07:35am | #7

   Huck: thanks, been here in simi since 1976. I decided to go with the comp 50yr due to cost. since i am doing a tear off and removing plywood to insulate the catheral part of the house to add needed insulation. Built in 1972 no insulation in the walls etc at that time frame. I got talked out of metal roofing, seems that its more expensive to install, noisy in the rain, can't walk on it as it gets bent, and conducts heat too much for this area meaning higher cooling expense!

   Again thanks for your input, Regards, Rick

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   seeyou | May 13, 2006 01:17pm | #4

   ............remove plywood and re insulate an older home

   Insulation is always good, but removing plywood sheathing to do it sounds a little busy. I'd try to find a different method. Is there a true attic or just the spaces between the rafters to insulate? Blowing cellulose might only require making a few holes in the right places. More info please. Also, adding polyiso or other sheet type insulation might be an option.

   metal roofs look attractive, question if they're noisy on rainy days?

   I'm partial to copper, but metal makes a good roof and is not much noisier than any other roof in a similarly insulated situation. Like anything else, the devil is in the details. Stick with a manufacturing company that's been around a while. I've seen a fair amount of finish failure, so you want a company that'll be there to honor it's warranty. An experienced installation crew is a must for a complex roof. 

   I'm leery of the new fake slates - I've seen some failure and they're expensive.

   Good luck - oh, and "bumping'" moves your post back to the top of the list so more people see it when they log on.  

    

    

    

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   Huck | May 13, 2006 03:57pm | #5

   I'm leery of the new fake slates - I've seen some failure

   What happened?  I love the look of slate - and was intrigued by the ads I've seen for the fake slates.  What have you seen?"he...never charged nothing for his preaching, and it was worth it, too" - Mark Twain

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   seeyou | May 14, 2006 10:25pm | #11

   http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=73744.7 

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   VaTom | May 13, 2006 04:22pm | #6

   Stick with a manufacturing company that's been around a while. I've seen a fair amount of finish failure, so you want a company that'll be there to honor it's warranty

   You mean sometimes this happens?  <G>

   Another big fan of copper.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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   simirick | May 14, 2006 08:07am | #9

   VaTom: Thanks for the input, Ive been attracted to the metal roofs similar to those in FHB, look really sharp too, Been a fan of slate forever , tough luck I can't afford that. talking to others like youself  I covinced that in this climate metal is not the best choice; potential problems of heat retension,noise, cost, and being fragile. Thanks for the picture, enlighting! Have heard a few reports like that as well, there is a thing called corisan steel thats pre rusted, it will last, if you don't mind the colour. Bottom line I think I'll go with Owens Corning 50 yr comp. Thanks again for your input, regards Rick

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   VaTom | May 14, 2006 03:34pm | #10

   You're welcome. 

   I dislike asphalt shingles, and am not much on doing roofing.  Once is all I want to do.  Cost is the only one of your problems with metal (copper) that I'd agree with.  Lifespan cost is the relevant issue. 

   "Corisan"?  What's that?  I looked into cor-ten (USSteel product) before sheathing my walls in copper.  Was the same price at the time and I faced large shipping costs (Chicago was the closest I could find).  Not aware that it's a roofing material.

   That pic was a job seeyou recently replaced with copper.  Long thread about it, Sphere had a great time up there.  Good example of why I'm suspicious of painted roofing.

   Good luck with your shingles.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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   Piffin | May 15, 2006 01:15am | #12

   Cor-ten probably will last. The theory behind it is that the sacriuficial layer of iron oxide protects what is down under.I can't stand the look of it tho. I used it in Telluride, CO where it was chosen by the archies for the look of an old abandoned mine building/ghost town deal. I believe it is about ten gauge metaal, thus the name 

    

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   zak | May 15, 2006 04:52am | #13

   I've been wondering for a while- is Cor-Ten the same thing as weathering steel (aka A-488 steel), just a high nickel content steel?  It sounds like it works the same way- the outer layer corrodes, but the nickel content keeps it from going any further.zak

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   Piffin | May 16, 2006 12:06am | #14

   zounds like you already know more than I do.Except that it's dang heavy to work with on a steep roof! 

    

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   simirick | May 14, 2006 07:54am | #8

   Thanks seeyou: Decided agains't the metal, yes i agree copper is the meoww, but the cost as you noted. The noise in the insulated half might be ok , but over the bed rooms ,didnt sound like a good idea after some thought. The area requiring insulation is the catheral ceiling area not the entire roof,so tear down is limited probably 8-900 sq feet. Attic area already insulated so no tear off there. Things like Cal-Shake seemed ok, looks more apealing than comp,but for the expense. Thanks for your input, Regards Rick