HI,
Is there by any chance someone who knows a retired general contractor who would like some light work in a contruction project in Ct.(danbury area).
Thank you for your help
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Why does the contractor have to be retired?
The person doesn't need to be retired but it is just a small project to build some houses. I will need someone with experience and knowledge in order to help me.
You wanting a CM/PM?SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
I'm guessing "retired" = "willing to work for peanuts"? On "houses" as in plural?
No because it is a small project, I didn't think the need of a full time general contractor. It is more a consultant, who can help me. For your information the salary is not an issue ...
It is more a consultant, who can help me.
What? Breaktime ain't good enough for you?
(|:>)
Ahm'a gonna make a WAG here; You are not an experienced professional residential general contractor.
Building even one house is not a small project. Building "some houses," is a huge project requiring a full time management level supervisor on instant call.
Unless of course, you're just putting up some shlock.SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
Are you a general contractor based in Connecticut ??
I like to travel.
How about you? Are you a GC?
SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
Edited 2/22/2007 4:02 pm by SamT
Have you done any project in Danbury or in the area??
What are you thinking?
You don't have to play twenty questions.
Just lay it out.
If you're just looking to rent a license, forget it.
If you want someone who can do you a good job, it's $2000/week + personal expenses.
And, yes, I'm worth it.
Edit: I'll be back in a couple of hours.
SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
Edited 2/22/2007 5:24 pm by SamT
fabrice.... paul is in your area... and he's a pretty smart fellah too..
ain't ya , paul ?Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
huh? me?
I just want to know what's "big" if "houses" are a small project ;)
I have dreams ya know...
If you're just looking to rent a license, forget it. 86135.12
I wonder if that's what it was? He hasn't responded since.SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
And he never respond about the new box truck I wanted in trade for helping him out. Part time of course.Best to you and yours, Chris.
Some say I know too much? Can you ever?
i think it safe to say that if salary is not an issue you would do well to consider some of the fine people that frequent this forum.
on the positive side you will be getting a person that has more interest in construction than the average bear, and your project will be critiqued on this forum which acts like a think tank for solving problems and addressing issues that arise during construction.
on the negative side you will not find cheap here, in fact we frequently encourage each other to charge more for their services. you can rest assured that you won't find a bargain here. what you will find is superior skill, quality, and value.
the more information you provide, the better we are able to answer questions. highly technical questions are regularly debated in this forum, and there is a wealth of information available, but you have to tell us what you want. even if you are just kicking tires, to get some ideas about possibilities and numbers that is fine, but tell us what you are working with so we can help you.
I vote that he pays a fee to a consortium of BT members to collectively act as construction managers during the project. That way he can get instant access to numerous experts in various fields, general and specialty, with peer review of all ideas. I mean, how many projects get sunk because one guy thought he knew what he was doing?? There could be daily photo and blog updates so that members of the management team can easily give guidance and render decisions. A couple of you who are physically in CT could serve as point.
LOL, If the fee is large enough, then we could retire and that would fill the bill
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Your share would be $99,500.
My "normal" fee is $150,00.00.
But since this is a multiple job I can knock it down to $100,000 per house.
I can make it up on volume.
You expect him to hire someone who misplaces zeros?
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LMAO wow just picture'n a house built with input from those of us here at BT... or better yet a house have'n to be built.... it'd take longer than my loft projects just to decide what color ink would be best for the plans....
what i've learned is that quality is not one flavor.... but many... just as there are many ways to get to a finished quality product.... none being wrong but all being different....
p
I am glad to see that my ad has been a source of entertainment for you guys. So I was a little vague in my request ... I am planning to build 2 to 3 houses and was looking for a reputable general contractor who does it on this scale.
OK Fab... Listen, this can be a rough crowd. Especially if the perception is such things as: looking to "rent" a license, looking for a cheap date, etc.
So, starting with a clean slate, what do you see as the role of this GC? I get the sense that you aren't looking for someone to run the job in the traditional sense? Why a retiree if it is't price driven? Maybe if you give a more thorough sense of what you're doing and who you're looking for "we" can help. It really is an incredible resource once you go through the hazing ;)
(FWIW, imagine me going to a medical forum and saying; "Does anyone know a retired surgeon who might be available for a simple hernia repair?")
"what do you see as the role of this GC?"
A more relavent question might be "what role will you have in this project?" - lol
(FWIW, imagine me going to a medical forum and saying; "Does anyone know a retired surgeon who might be available for a simple hernia repair?")
why bother with a surgeon... there are a "buch" skilled people here that would be willing to help...
and there's no telling how much duct tape there is on hand so you wouldn't leak... much...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
BTW... Litchfield Builders in that area has a very good reputation.
I am planning to build 2 to 3 houses and was looking for a reputable general contractor who does it on this scale.
Well it just so happens that that is the exact scale most residential GCs operate at, so you shouldn't have too much trouble.
Do you have blueprints yet?
Plans?
sketches?
Ideas???SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
You could hire my father. Problem is that he'd probably kill half of the subs and run the rest off the site. Now there is a guy that could work circles around anyone and wasn't one for taking any ... um.... poop.
Seriously, if you come back to read this, time is money. For you that is. If you hire the right guy, he will cost you less than the cheaper guy over time. I've seen PMs that can keep a job rolling at an unbelievable clip and then there are guys that are just as lagging as you'd never want to be.
When you're this good, EVERYONE wants a crack at you!
http://www.petedraganic.com/
Where'd he go?
best part of having Pete's Dad around is he makes Pete tell all sorta embarrasing stories ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
"wow just picture'n a house built with input from those of us here at BT..."Reminds me of that old song about a cadillac built from pieces the guy brought home in his lunchbox over the years, while working at the cadillac plant.
Sometimes its just about a good bowl of soup. Oh, and a nice sammich. Sometimes its just about a good bowl of soup, and a nice sammich.
Funny as it is, there was just a post (I think in the 'what's the worst you've seen' thread) about remodeling a house that had some odd work performed on it in the past.Turned out the guy who built it worked at the local sawmill and erected a good chunk of it from the scraps that he brought home.Tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet ~ Horace
Or like that Simpsons episode where Homer gets to design a car. :)
Pete Duffy, Handyman
Now I have to go see what the library has for old Simpsons episodes on dvd...
This was a pretty nice little thread until you garbaged it up. ~Gunner
Out of curiousity Fabrice... could you be more specific on what kind of help you need? I'm a little confused (and not trying to be argumentative) at the disparity between calling "houses" (plural) a small project, and needing the help of a retired GC or builder.
Inquirying minds and all that... (besides, I grew up in Newtown)
PaulB
"some houses" is NOT a small project! Maybe you need to be more clear about the position you are trying to fill.
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Boy...... I feel small today...... I build only three small projects a year......houses that is. All this hard work is not that hard at all I guess. Im atta here......gonna wah myself to bed tonight for sure.
I didn't think the need of a full time general contractor. It is more a consultant, who can help me.yourcontractor@aol.com
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Try my friend...http://www.bruceirving.bizToolpig (a.k.a. The man formerly known as "Toolfreak" and "Toolfanatic")
I'll trade my services for a new box truck? Part time gig right?
Best to you and yours, Chris.
Some say I know too much? Can you ever?
my understanding of the word "retired" means no longer having to go to work. shame on anyone who suggests otherwise.
when I retire, that it!
The infamous Sketchup artist Gene, AKA Mr Micro had retired but seems to keep both hands plenty busy
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From what I have read, we don't seem to be helping the OP.
He may be like me, plenty of construction management experience, but with limited experience building a hotel or hotels. I soliciated the help of a builder who has built 15 similar hotels in the Houston area. Not only is he willing to come onboard as a consultant, but would help us in calculating cost, and allow us to use his subs and resources.
It seems the client is pondering our group and offer.
Well put, Tex! I don't want to see this become a JLC over here but not a TOH either. Need to stay the course already set.
Maybe in the forum "warnings" they should state that if you are easily offended by a roughneck construction crowd...go to the forum for cooking or interior decoratiing.
Otherwise, fight back.
oh, yeah, tough guy ?
i'd rather take my chances with this crowd that the cooks anytimeMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I am sure your good for a short order, and probaly have some good recipes for serving baloney.
Edited 3/1/2007 3:01 pm ET by txlandlord
Rational response.
Without knowing what the OP has in mind it sure seems he reaped a whirlwind of grief.
Heck I am retired from activly swinging the hammer if I can .. and I would have travelled to a job that was interesting and paid enough. to bad he hasn't come back publicly and followed up.
Could be though that he got a private response and is on his way with what he wanted to do .
Rational response.Without knowing what the OP has in mind it sure seems he reaped a whirlwind of grief.Heck I am retired from activly swinging the hammer if I can .. and I would have travelled to a job that was interesting and paid enough. to bad he hasn't come back publicly and followed up.Could be though that he got a private response and is on his way with what he wanted to do .
Maybe he got buried in such a pile of &%$#* that he drowned, or maybe he is senstive and is curled up in a corner somewhere.
I really thought we could have helped, but he has disappeared. Oh well. NEXT!
yep ,seems like ya got to watch what you ask for,The forum police will get ya, or now it seems the gut eatin dawg brigade, shooey! imagine the response if the OP would have asked for a politically liberal oriented contractor ora, ora - my o my the birds droppen outa tha sky!- Christian contractor. :0 shoo I shudder to think.
Or ask for a licensed retired contractor willing to do work your not willing to name.
Nobody accused the OP of looking to rent a license. Not renting a license was a condition of one offer of negotiation.
Maybe he thought less than $50/hour was outside the limits of "Salary is no objection" for a qualified PM. Maybe he thought that building 3 units at once would not require 40 hours/week of a PMs' time.
My gut said maybe he wanted to rent a license and I wanted to eliminate that possibilty up front.
Something sure eliminated him. Maybe it was that, and maybe it was because people were laughing at the idea of three houses being a small project.SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
Mr. Sam-- I was looking at craigs list the other night , I think it was northern Va. area there is this lawyer, that is advertising on it ,that states he is a licensed contractor. class A in Va. and surrounding states he is offering for a price, the opportunity for tradesmen to work under his licence, I worked for a fellow last fall that is doing the samething , here in muddy wet southwest Va. I don,t like it but it seems more prevalent than one would think.
Now this is the start of a rant-- I have noticed in the last few weeks - that there have been a lot of terse, snide and durn right catty answers given to first time posters, lurkers , DIYs and just people looking for some information.I know that for most of us in the trades this is'nt the most prosperous time we have seen, and hopefully this is'nt bleeding over into our personal lives, but it just seems that there has been a lot of tension in the posts, as I lurk a whole lot more than I post- because I have the time.Sure enough that is what the above poster probley wanted ,but we will more than likely never know because of the answers that were given to them ,some fine folks on here will say -ya need to grow a thicker skin- but that in itself does not forgive rudeness. There it is , I said it. Now I will stand calmly put on my blindfold ,and await the rifle volley that is surly ,as the sun comes up will follow. God Bless ya'll d.w.
Mind if I stand next to you ?
taking blindfold off- hey come on up here we'll eat some chili beans - while we wait.
Regarding your rant. I am sure that many are making jokes or seem to be rude, but just having the kind of rough fun typical of construction workers. These are sometimes misunderstood, as they are in black and white without the avaliavbility of voice inflection, countenance, jesters and the giggle that accompanies the jive.
On the other hand, there is some wacking going on.
Your theory about leaner times may be perfectly valid.
BANG!There, that's over.
there have been a lot of terse, snide and durn right catty answers given to first time posters, lurkers , DIYs and just people...
Some attribute it to election year tensions. When is there not an election year of some sort.
Others say it always happens in the winter season as the blame gets placed on cabin fever.
Then again there are those given to the thought that man is like that and capable of horrific neglect of one to another. Eat their flesh.
An extreme to say yea but the principle of such does at times follow suit here of the oneupmanship and self seeking ignorance of insults beyond the norm of just verbal war, intent toward what reason one can only ponder.
And in a truth to show one's self in such a manner towards a first timer or quiet mannered poster does reveal a certain lack in something, what I nay say lest I too enter that foray amongst discontented souls.
every court needs a jester
Edited 3/1/2007 7:08 pm ET by rez
Thanks Professor. Well said.
Thank you I was getting tired of waiting-- My man, you sure are eloquent I talked to my wife about the thread, she previewed it and said I was being overly sensitive, fact is she said, that for a big ole gut tub of a man I was a little on the sensitive side anyway-- got to cut back on them chilibeans.
when I read your comments, I had to go back to the first of this thread because I could remember some kidding but not outright rudeness at all.It really muct bne a matter of perception and POV, because the frist sign of any rudeness I saw was from the OP. He had been asked by both Sam and Paul to clarify his vision, but instead of answering or interacting, he came on with quizing them, answering questions with questions to guys trying to get enough information to be a help.That seemed rude to me! Usually when I ask for help, I am willing to provide the needed information to get some decent answers.But I guess not everybody is like me - Ain't we glad!
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I don,t know, my wife says its problem a regional thing on their part ,or more than likely my own Appalachian sensibilities, which is stereotypical of the folks around where I am from, something perceived in error is more damaging than something said.
in the winter ... it's lack of work.
summer ... the heat.
spring ... too much wind
fall ... damn leaves hitting ya on the head.
there ... that's why everyone's cranky!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
And here I thought it was just because we're all a bunch of a-holes.
When you're this good, EVERYONE wants a crack at you!
http://www.petedraganic.com/
or that!
that's the one I claim ...
I was trying to giving all the other kids the benefit of the doubt!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I always blame the GF and her headaches..;-)
He got the same treatment (verbally, if not physically) as a computer geek looking nerd would have in approaching the Hells Angels with a howdy and a smile.
So, are you approving the behavior he got from this forum?--equating us with the Hell's Angels? What? When you approach the Hell's Angels, you sort of can expect that they may be a rough bunch--reputation and demeanor and so on. (Not that being rough is bad--some of my best friends are rough and/or Hell's Angels and I really don't want them mad at me!) Anyway, one shouldn't, IMO, have to approach a public forum of home builders with the same trepidation one would have when approaching a biker gang. Or am I wrong?
Yes, I was just clowning and having fun.
I dunno, Tex, you expressed more knowledge of construction in that one post than the OP did in this whole thread.SamT
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. [Einstein] Tks, BossHogg.
I dunno, Tex, you expressed more knowledge of construction in that one post than the OP did in this whole thread.
Maybe that is why he needs a contractor.
I know theres a lotta fun here. But lets say you could find a retired guy like my 80 year old dad, retired GC, Lets say you had lunch with him 3 times a week and paid him a grand a week for 3 hours a week, Lets say every other week for a month or 2, You would save that x 10 and be worth every nickel and you would be glad you did, I met a guy that owned rentals, he sat me down for lunch and boy did i go to school, it would have been years to get that much info on my own.
ya, but...
there would be unretired GC's who would do that, I'd bet - he didn't advertize for a 'consultant' until well down the thread -
"...retired general contractor who would like some light work in a contruction project..." - "...just a small project to build some houses. I will need someone with experience and knowledge in order to help me...." - "...it is a small project, I didn't think the need of a full time general contractor. It is more a consultant, who can help me..."
I'm with the others - "there's something rotten in Denm...er... Danbury"
"there's enough for everyone"
Sorry 'bout the crowd here................
Email me if you'd like.
I am in Brewster, NY and I have been building/remodeling for 30 years.
yourcontractor@aol.com
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