FIL is about to build in our area.
I have been pushing him toward lower maintenance options on his house. One area is the exterior. He is sold on the Hardie board as an exterior surface.
The other week he and his wife went to a spring home show in the area and saw a product by Rhino that is sprayed on top of exterior surfaces. So here is the deal, he wants to put up the hardie, then have it sprayed with this product.
My mind is envisioning something like they spray into a bed of a pickup truck.
If I was going to use Hardie I wouldn’t be spraying anything on it except paint, seems to me a product like Rhino would obscure the crisp lines of the planks of Hardie.
Anyone know the pro’s and con’s? Does it peel? Adhere well? Why not just vinyl the house?
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haven't heard of the stuff....
call yur FIL and wake him so we can get aditional information...
as in who makes it... who's offering it...
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the works....
go ahead he won't mind....
it's fer a good cause....
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call yur FIL and wake him so we can get aditional information...
Oh yeah, he would love that!
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"Anyone know the pro's and con's? Does it peel? Adhere well? Why not just vinyl the house?"
here in south texas on the gulf of mexico they are even spraying the bottom of boats with the stuff, i was told barnacles dont attach themselves to it
i agree with you, it would take away from the crisp lines
Wow, even boats huh?
Oh well for a smooth hull, resistance.
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I have used rhino liner in the tubs of jeeps and the beds of trucks , and since it is a urathan compound, it has adheared to the metal " like a fat tickon a dogs back," but every applacation has faded from the sun big time
Mine too on a truck that I previously owned. So far so good on the current one by Line-X
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There's Rhino and Line-X. IIRC, one of them is very high friction, good if you don't want to bother tying stuff down. The other isn't exactly slippery, but lower friction, which makes it easier to slide stuff in and out of the truck. Of course, I don't remember which way around it is. ;-)
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They are waaaay better than bed liners as far as tying stuff down! Never had a load shift to bad.
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i think some of those spray liner products have more uv protection then others, i had my first one done in 1991 and it faded over the years, my last one is z-liner by z-tech and i was told it comes with an additive for uv protection-but time will tell
I would imagine this is a slightly different product with fewer solids than the truck liner - no need for good grip to walk on - but I don't know what it is. I just saw an ad in FL for "Liquid Siding" that is sprayed on. Supposed to be a lifetime thing....
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I actually looked up "liquid siding" and found more negative than positive about the product. Lawsuit type stuff, state inquiries into product liability.
I don't know, sounds like something is amiss here.....
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saw on Smashlabs where they spread a building with something like that, it protected the building from collapsing from a car bomb.
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LOL, I saw that smashlab link on the internet when researching the product!
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I was going to say, this sure sounds like the "spray on siding" that there have been a huge number of complaints about.
I was going to say, this sure sounds like the "spray on siding" that there have been a huge number of complaints about.
I am starting to believe there are good ones and bad. Trying to distinquish between the Eastwoods, the good, bad, and ugly!
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Wow, even boats huh?
If it improved looks don't ya think we would have sprayed him a long time ago?
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LOL! I wondered if someone would go in that direction!
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Rhino LINER is spray ureathane coating that is more commonly used as truck bedliner.But they have it for many other applications.they list all kinds here. Even a few residential such ad balconies and decks.But no siding.http://www.rhinolinings.com/index.phpI suspect that he is talking about Rhino SHIELD.http://www.rhinoshield.net/I think that it falls into the "liquid siding" catagory..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
The rhinoshield does sound like the best product.
Wonder how a house can breath with something like that on it?
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fyi barnacles can attach to anything. pull anything up from the bottom of an area where barnacles grow and there will be barnacles on it..(was in boatyard business for 20 yrs)
This is probably it, one of the ceramic coatings:
http://www.rhinoproducts.net/
I'd talk him into Duration, or even a top 100% acrylic. Much more time proven and someone you can go back on locally
Edited 4/15/2008 8:25 am by BarryE
Thanks! I didn't see that one last night while researching. That sounds like the stuff. Are you familiar with this?
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Haven't used that one, but most of the major manufacturers have ceramic paints. The catch is that the ceramic additive is mostly used for interior paints by the big paint companies. The reason being is that ceramic improves scrubbing ability and abrasion resistance, which aren't the top priorities of exterior paints.There is one company, Graham Paint, that was brought out by Muralo paints that makes a ceramic exterior paint, that I would trust at this time.SW's Duration is an acrylic polymer paint that they developed as a step up over acrylicsFrom Rhino's website: "you’ll have permanent protection and added insulation." When they start making claims of being ceramic based and insulative you have to wonder if it's to good to be true.If it's so great, why aren't the major manufacturers all over it
Barry E-Remodeler
If it's so great, why aren't the major manufacturers all over it
That is a good point.
Gotta start somewhere? For the most part I never try new innovations especially when you look at the cost. Usually the initial costs are higher to recoup RD and take advantage of the market.
But as you have said I usually look at things when they are the norm and others are selling the products. At least you have the feeling they are safer and work as advertised.
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I was told today that DEQ had a hand in closing up a couple of shops here that used to do product spraying with the portable sprayers. No verification of the story , but thought I would toss it out .
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
DEQ, what is this?
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Dept. of Environmental Quality.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Ahhhh. Not good to pizz off the DEQ.......... :-)
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This stuff?
http://www.homepreservationsystems.com/index.html
Manufacturers:
http://www.homepreservationsystems.com/manufacturers.html
Tech data: (What little there is )
http://www.homepreservationsystems.com/technical.html
I am currently researching a number of products that use the term "extreme coatings" or "extreme performance coatings".
Spec'd on a current job and no one seems to know just where the spec came from or what it is. Specs call for it to be applied to all surfaces , walls , floors, int. and ext..
Just got off the phone with an applicator of the Rhino Liner products.
Check out this web site.
Has a list of all the application it has been used for.
http://www.rhinolinings.com/applications.php?id=27
Cost here applied from portable spray unit is $10-12 a sq./ft. for large (10,000 sq. ft ) jobs.
Upper right hand of page has a dealer/applicator locater.
Thanks for the links! Hopefully it will help you out also! That ceramic coating from them looks pretty good.
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Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. -Truman Capote