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Ridge/Hip Shingle Question.

blownonfuel | Posted in Construction Techniques on April 29, 2009 03:59am

Well I finally finished the shingles and am now installing the hip and ridge shingles but I need to know how to do the hip/ridge area. I posted a pic. just in case. These are the thick Gaf Elk hip ridge shingles.

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  1. mike_maines | Apr 29, 2009 05:48am | #1

    Go up one more course on each side.  One will have to lap over the other.  Then run the ridge cap out over the hip caps.  Cut the edges of the ridge cap parallel to the hip cap.  The ridge cap will look like a home plate in baseball.

    1. blownonfuel | Apr 29, 2009 06:06am | #2

      Thanks Mike. Won't it get a bit lumpy with all the overlaps? These TimberTrex shingles are three layers thick at the top and two layers at the bottom. I'll do it like you said though.Thanks again.

      1. mike_maines | Apr 29, 2009 06:09am | #3

        Well, hopefully a real roofer will chime in here.  I'm sure there are a dozen ways to do it.

      2. Piffin | Apr 29, 2009 01:50pm | #4

        you can peel the extra thickness off the overlapping ones there, and where they extend beyond break, cut them off instead of fold and nail like the regular shingles.I have a different method than Mike for the first ridge cap.
        I make it extend the face way out over the hipped slope and nail it in place. This leaves a big fish mouth facing out. Then I use my knife and cut a slit at the center line of the exposure so that two pieces will lay down with a bit of edge overlap. One exposed nail there stitches them down so the wind doesn't rob you.
         

         

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        1. mike_maines | Apr 29, 2009 04:12pm | #9

          That makes sense.

          1. blownonfuel | Apr 29, 2009 05:57pm | #10

            Thanks Guys. I'll see what I can do.

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    BossHog | Apr 29, 2009 02:14pm | #5

    I always use 3 tab shingles for ridge cap. They're a lot easier to cut. and I taper the ends on the part that's hidden, as you can see in this picture.

    (The last one hasn't been nailed down yet)

    At the intersection you posted a pic of, I would curve the shingles around in an arch until you make the transition to the horizontal ridge. Just make sure the nails are covered and make it look purty.

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    1. seeyou | Apr 29, 2009 02:33pm | #6

      I always use 3 tab shingles for ridge cap.

      That'll void your warranty on some (if not all) brands of dimensional shingles. Some are even spec'ing proprietary starter shingles these days.

      It's the norm on 3 tab roofs, though. http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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        BossHog | Apr 29, 2009 03:01pm | #7

        I've never heard that before. But the warranties on shingles are pretty much useless anyway, so maybe it won't matter.
        Yesterday is a cancelled check; tomorrow is a promisory note; today is ready cash. Spend it wisely.

        1. seeyou | Apr 29, 2009 03:14pm | #8

          It's new since they changed the warranty from 25 year to 30 year on dimensional shingles. The 3 tabs are 25 year. It's a ploy to sell high priced ridge accessories.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

          1. jimAKAblue | Apr 30, 2009 06:31pm | #11

            Why wouldn't the field shingles be warranted for 30 years and the ridge warranted for 25 years?

          2. seeyou | Apr 30, 2009 08:00pm | #12

            I don't know - just another way to sell more expensive accessories.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

          3. frammer52 | May 01, 2009 03:11am | #13

             

            Why wouldn't the field shingles be warranted for 30 years and the ridge warranted for 25 years>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

            Logic is in short supply!

          4. excaliber32 | May 02, 2009 09:59pm | #14

            No, no, no! Logic is just on back-order!

          5. Hazlett | May 03, 2009 01:38pm | #15

            blue,- they don't warranty the ridge seperately---because they want to sell you THEIR ridge at their pricea bundle of 3 tabs costs maybe $25 and caps about 30 feeta bundle of ridge caps---costs about $60---and depending on the brand may only cap 22 feet or so when you get into a hip roof, or a roof with a lot of dormers etc.-- the accessory ridge caps start adding up to ??? in a hurry. Very often on a roof my accessories-- cap, flashing,vents,drip edge, ICE GAURD etc.- exceed the cost of the shingles usedalso--- on a dimensional shingle roof--- 3 tabs look rather cheesy IMHO--as ridge caps-- they lack the shadow line that the approved caps have---and look especially bad on hip roofs.
            stephen

          6. Piffin | May 03, 2009 01:42pm | #16

            with a heavy archy shingle, I have used three tabs doubled on hip and ridge, but that gets to add a lot of labour cutting them real quick. Definitely as inexpensive to use the 'approved' premades. 

             

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          7. Hazlett | May 03, 2009 02:30pm | #17

            most of the dimensional shingle colors now are "enhanced" to visually add depth and texture.---10-15 years ago a "driftwood" dimensional and a "driftwood" 3 tab would be pretty compatible---- but now the color difference is VERY noticeable and the 3 tabs make an obviously blander appearance as cap------a visibly noticeable"stripe"---in my opinion,anyhowstephen

          8. theslateman | May 03, 2009 02:36pm | #18

            I took these pics yesterday on the home where I did the copper barrel roof.

            Went up in the 60' lift to look around a bit on the water side .

            Is this the accepted technique for hip / ridge closeure ??!

             

             

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          9. Piffin | May 04, 2009 01:27pm | #19

            That's about what I was describing 

             

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          10. theslateman | May 05, 2009 12:00pm | #20

            Paul ,

            Look a bit closer there  -- can't you see that black stripe of sealant on that first cap ???

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            BossHog | May 05, 2009 02:49pm | #21

            I think the stripe of sealant is a nice visual touch.(-:
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          12. Piffin | May 05, 2009 09:59pm | #22

            Yeqah, they left too much exposure, but I meant the way I make the slit to lap down. 

             

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