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   seeyou | May 12, 2009 01:47pm | #1

   for use on a diamond rib steel roof.

   What's that?

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   Sphere | May 12, 2009 02:08pm | #2

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   Scott | May 12, 2009 05:49pm | #4

   >>>for use on a diamond rib steel roof.>>>What's that?It's what they call the "traditional" steel roof here, with fasteners driven through, (as opposed to standing seam).Scott.

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   seeyou | May 12, 2009 10:11pm | #5

   Wouldn't have a clue what kind of roof jack would work on that. Ridge hook maybe? What do you need to install roof jacks for?http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   Scott | May 12, 2009 10:58pm | #6

   >>>What do you need to install roof jacks for?

    

   I need to get up here (10/12 pitch):

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   ...to put siding on the gable end (and dig out all the nasty birds' nests behind the sheathing.... yuck).

    

   Scott.

   Edited 5/12/2009 4:00 pm by Scott

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   seeyou | May 12, 2009 11:07pm | #7

   Get a ridge hook and a chicken ladder.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   Piffin | May 12, 2009 11:59pm | #8

   I'd bee on chicken ladders too 

    

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   Scott | May 12, 2009 11:59pm | #9

   I've got some hooks, but there are a some problems. I'd like to have a plank to stand on, so the plan is to set up scaff beside the house and run a plank from it to the roof jack. The other problem is that the gable had a 2 foot overhang, which forces the chicken ladder away from the wall. A third problem is that a ladder flopped on the roof won't let me reach the whole gable end. I think I need planking and at least one jack, no?Scott.

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   theslateman | May 13, 2009 12:02am | #10

   Run a plank from the scaffold to a rung of the hooked ladder.

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   seeyou | May 13, 2009 12:12am | #12

   What the slatemeister said.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   Scott | May 13, 2009 12:16am | #13

   Ok, got it.Thanks guys.Scott.

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   VinceCarbone | May 13, 2009 12:39am | #14

   I would get roof jacks, pad the side that lays against the roof, back some screws out of the roof and install roof jacks into the screw holes, put plank ,do work, take down and replace screws into roof.   Vince Carbone

   Riverside Builders

   Franklin,NY

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   Scott | May 13, 2009 12:51am | #15

   That's exactly what I was thinking. But I suppose that because I've already got the hook ladder I should give it a go first. If it doesn't work out I'll get the jacks.I see they're cheap enough at Amazon:http://www.amazon.com/Qual-Craft-2500Q-Adjustable-Roofing-Bracket/dp/B0000224N3Thanks,Scott.

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   seeyou | May 13, 2009 01:00am | #16

   back some screws out of the roof and install roof jacks into the screw holes,

   That might work if there was solid sheathing under the metal. It's on skip sheathing, so at the very least, a shingle roof jack will dent the metal, pad or not.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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    theslateman | May 13, 2009 01:03am | #17

    Lets use some ultimate ridge hooks bolted to 2 x 8   , then fasten a masons chimney bracket scaffold to that . Plank that in with 3 -  7' aluma decks and we're good to go .

    Can you tell it's been a long day !!

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    seeyou | May 13, 2009 01:32am | #22

    Can you tell it's been a long day !!

    A long day out to produce pix or at least a good story or two.

    I've got no pix, but I've got a good story I might tell after I bend a few more pans and cook dinner.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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    Snort | May 13, 2009 02:14am | #23

    I've got a 5 vee roof with a hip porch like yours. When I want to be sort of safe on it, I use perforated metal pipe straps. Take out some roof screws, screw them back thru the strap. The other end of the straps are fastened some sort of 2x arrangement that you can screw the jacks to...Usually, I just drag a 2x8 2x4 tee up, rest the 2x8 on the upper side of a row of screws. The 2x4 is the leg of the tee and sticking up. I can stand a ladder on it up to a 4 pitch. Your roof doesn't look that high<G>Edited to add: I didn't see your roof rightly. Use the hooks.http://www.tvwsolar.com Now I wish I could give Brother Bill his great thrill
    I would set him in chains at the top of the hill
    Then send out for some pillars and Cecil B. DeMille
    He could die happily ever after"

    Edited 5/12/2009 7:18 pm ET by Snort

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    Scott | May 13, 2009 01:07am | #18

    Good point. I think that that roof has 2x4 straps 12" OC. It's fairly rigid.Scott.

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    seeyou | May 13, 2009 01:21am | #19

    I think that that roof has 2x4 straps 12" OC. It's fairly rigid.

    Those roof jacks are about 12" tall. My question is what are you gonna stand on when you're replacing the roof panel you dinged up?http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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    Scott | May 13, 2009 01:26am | #20

    Hahaha...not an option. The roofing budget's blown.Scott.

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    seeyou | May 13, 2009 01:29am | #21

    One more tip on the roof jack: You can put it over to one side of the ladder and slip the ladder slightly under the soffit.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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    Sasquatch | May 13, 2009 12:03am | #11

    Contact the roofing manufacturer/supplier.How can you understand God if you can't understand people?  How can you understand people if you can't understand yourself?

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    [email protected] | May 14, 2009 02:50am | #24

    Since the screws are installed in the valleys, and the tin roof is going to leak anyway: Rip the tin off, tie into the substructure to do the work you thought you needed to do, and then when your done put new roofing on it.

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    Scott | May 14, 2009 02:53am | #25

    Beautiful; go big or go home....Might as well replace it with standing seam, right? Naw... I'll call up Sphere and put solid copper down.....Scott.

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    [email protected] | May 14, 2009 04:16am | #26

    Nothing wrong with multi-rib metal roofing. Installed right it will last for decades with no problems. But the screws go in the ribs, not the valleys. The little neoprene washers will last five or six years before the rot out, and then the roof will leak. If you are there with the scaffolding, it is time to fix it.

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    coonass | May 14, 2009 04:27am | #27

    Jigs,Screws go on the flat per installation lit. The neoprene washers in the new overcup screws are almost completely covered and should last the life of the metal. One of my buildings was done in 1980, no leaks yet,KK

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    [email protected] | May 14, 2009 06:24am | #28

    Actually, testing performed by the Corps of Engineers, indicates that the heat cycle expansion / contraction cycle will elongate the holes, and wear out the neoprene seal rings. Their spec, and the ones I write, require that no screws are installed in the valleys, and are installed in the ridges. Installing screws in the valleys has a very slight increase in wind tear off resistance.

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    Scott | May 14, 2009 07:16am | #29

    This thing seems to get talked to death. The roof was put on by a professional crew; and all the crews do it this way around here. Whenever I've asked they tell me that this is the way the manufacturer wants it. Step outside this method and there's no warranty.You may not be able to see it in the pic, but there are some screws driven into the ribs, on a regular schedule. So far there's no problems at all, and many houses around here have leak-proof 10+ year old roofs. I have been told that around the 15 year mark you need to re-torque some screws that work loose.Scott.

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   Danno | May 12, 2009 02:40pm | #3

   You can rent them at rental places. I suppose some place like "Harbor Freight" or "Northern Tool" may have cheap ones.