I got an “offer” to do some re-roofs in Florida for $55 a square. This is a tear off and reroof. Way low for me to drive 20 hours from Texas. This is about the going rate in my part of Texas but isnt this low for Palm Beach.
Here a house for 100,000 dollars would go for about five there.
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That is a joke right? Here it is about 55 a sq. just for the tear off.
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no joke, amigos will do em all day long 7 days a week for 45-55-
new construction 14 18 a sq
Due to recent budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.
Edited 2/6/2006 6:24 pm ET by mrmojo
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No he was not joking. I installed blue tarp for this company at 30 a square. I guess he thoght he was going for Texas wages. I didnt bite.
Bam, that really sounds like a joke! I'm in Mobile, AL (on the Gulf Coast) and new 7/12 shingle installs are running around $40/square....we just raised our prices from $70/square R&R to $85
Timberline 30 reroofs are running between $150 & $200/ square labor & materials.
I can't imagine you doing this for what you said in FL--the codes are much stricter, as are the licensing & insurance requirements. It would be impossible for me to work in FL legitimately for less than $100-125/square labor.
Good luck, and don't sell yourself short!Jason Pharez Construction
Framing & Exterior Remodeling
It was a joke all right... but I didnt find it funny. Got a contractor friend in Gulfport that offered me 75 a square for tear off and reroof back in November. but we've got plenty here were I'm at thanks to Rita. Normaly I do remodeling only but there are too many people that need roofs first.
until Jan 1st our tearoff/ replace/ haul away debris price was 70 a square....went up after the 1st to $80.
Considering you're coming from out of state, you might need to charge more to cover your costs with temp housing, travel time, etc.
Up until the storms, we figured our total roof price by figuring $70 a square labor, plus the lump sum of the materials, plus $300-$400 for renting a dumpster (I didn't have my dump trailer til October).
Before Katrina, we were getting $175-$200/ SQ for Timberlines--the highest price of any contractor I knew of!
After Katrina, $150/ SQ was the most we could charge (at least for a while) b/c everyone's looking out for "price gougers".
Go figure!Jason Pharez Construction
Framing & Exterior Remodeling
At $55 a square they aren't legal. I'm in NE Florida and we pay close to that for new work. I've paid $200 a square for a complex re-roof with 40 year materials and copper drip. I'd be scared to death of anyone who would do it 55. No workers comp in Fla. means when the Tacos fall off the roof you have unlimited liability and even face jail time and you could easily lose your home. Here they recently busted up a check cashing scheme where a Mexi-framer had CASHED $20 million in checks with no workers comp. If you are willing to have uninsured workers on your reroof you might as well go all the way and play a round of 3 bullet Russian Roulette at lunch.
How many roofers do you think are actually following Florida law? 55 a square, unless they are taking taxes, is illegal anyway.
I have WC and 2 million GL plus 1 million truck. I can afford that in Tx because of the cost of living here is so low. But here a house note cost as much as a months worth for an RV space there. I started to laugh at him but he still holding the 10% required for most government jobs. Just wondering how much he was off.
A roofing contractor is required to do roofing work in Florida. Contractors can not sub the work to anyone that is not a licenced roofer. The exception is that contractor can install roofing materials on projects (houses) that they build (except commercial jobs)where all are employees and covered under w/c. Last year they relaxed the rules to allow florida licenced building contractors(and out of state roofers, with credentials) to install roofing with the exception of metal,tile and a few other materials due to the hurricanes (shortage of roofers)for a limited time by (executive order of the Gov.). There was no provisions to allow someone to hire anyone to work (construction) without being properly licenced in state or an employee of a licenced contractor. Anyways roofing contractors in our area have been charging above $200 s.f for (years) for removal and replacement of shingles with standard materials.
That would sound more like it for that area. He told me that he just got his roofers licence, so how could he get away with using an out of stater (me) to install his roofs.
It's not legal. If you were to contract this work in this State you could be arrested for unlicensed contracting. You can go online (http://www.MYFLORIDALICENCE.com) to the Construction Industry Licensing Board (CILB)it see if a contractor is state licenced. According to the Spring 2005 newsletter published by the CILB in FY 2003/2004 they visited 2700 job sites and verified the status of 5800 licences plus set up sting operations and made arrests in in 25 cases for(felony) unlicenced contracting. As of Feb/2005 they visited 10,417 hurricane-related sites and checked the status of 14,968 licences resulting in 102 notices of non-compliance,394 citations,opened 1,030 diciplinary investigations,issued 1,143 cease and desist orders and made 50 arrests. The letter also stresses to all division 1 contractors and roofing contrators that "you must employ any unlicenced labor and not subcontract any unlicenced labor, you must deduct FICA, withhold tax and provide workers comp coverage". Failure to do so is considered assisting unlicenced activity." among other things.
Edited 2/9/2006 9:10 am ET by thor
Thor, I wish AL would get as tough on contractors as ya'll man!
It's amazing to see all the less than 1 year old roofs (from Ivan) that blew off during Katrina, yet some people still want to save a few bucks by using jacklegs!Jason Pharez Construction
Framing & Exterior Remodeling
I hope that doesnt include the blue tarp installers too. Thats what I was down there for. I dont have a Florida roofing licence, nor am I planning on getting one --ever. Was working for the Army Corp for that. But I DID NOT install any shingles either temporary or permanent while I was there.
Not sure either. When your with the Core your probably exempt. Im not into enforcement though.
thor- thats what it says in the book
do you spend any time on actual jobsites? i do everydayDue to recent budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.
Geez, now you got me feeling like I'm getting robbed here. Metal roofing is $600-700 per square in new construction. Still waiting for a bid on a smaller, fairly complex strip, sheet and reroof with comp, figuring it will be $250 per square.
$250 a square is a sub price here. $325-$375 retail to a customer.
When you say sheet, do you mean new ply over existing sheathing? --------------------------
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There's 1x6 skip with 2" spaces. 7/16" OSB is what the roofer suggested. Strip two layers of cedar off first, go back with 40 year. Last year it would have cost about $5300 for 15 squares, but that roofer got locked up and I need to talk to the other guy, who is more legit and more expensive.
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