What is everyone (else) charging for a reroof? It seems that all of my calls lately are for roofing jobs and I dont do alot of them. I normally charge $225 per square which includes permit/stripping/roofing and disposal.
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We average about $255 - $270, but we have a lot of weatherguard required here in Michigan, and we're more picky than some. There are some "Bubba & his pick-up" type competitors that are significantly lower than us.
way too many variables..pitch, dump fees, type of tear off.., new material..there is no such thing (for me) as a sq.ft. $...that is set. Slate can be 500.00 a sq. just in material.
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Agreed that there are too many variables... for comp shingles I'm accustomed to paying in the $250-350 per square range depending on number of layers removed, whether or not plywood is added (usually is), pitch, access, number of penetrations, chimneys, valleys, skylights, roof-to-wall flashings, etc. Got quotes of around $500 per square to put metal on my house and that's if I strip and do the plywood. I think it really depends on the roofer... I always try to get the best one I know and he's the most expensive. Never gets me in trouble, though.
Jr.
what you can get for your roofing services will largely depend on WHERE you are located----and WHO you are selling to.
On another forum ,not to long ago,---I was involved in a similar discussion.A lot of roofers indicated that where they are MOST "roofers" are selling their services at $150-170/Square.
I was getting those rates with minimal experience 10-12 years ago.
this year---my first 5 roofs range from $291 to $364 per square ------all walkable. All the jobs are referalls---and all the people have middle to lower middle incomes.
I do admidt that it is MUCH tougher to sell those prices to prospects who are responding to an ad. Much easier to sell to a referall based customer.
good Luck
Jr,
Here in NC we're charging $265 pr square rip and install on a walkable roof. We charge $50 pr square labor for each additional layer to be ripped off, plus dumpster, plus dump fee.
For a re-roof (which we don't recommend to people) it's $125 pr square walkable. These are all based on traditional 3-tab 25 yr. It works out like this...
25 sq roof:
25 X $175 (Subs dead cost with materials) = $4,375
Dumpster $400
Total Dead Cost = $4,775
Dead Cost ($4,775) X 1.57 markup = $7,497 Job Total. Rounds out to what others were saying at $300 pr square.
Hope this is helpful :o)
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Edited 3/28/2004 6:42 pm ET by JoeB
I just got two estimates, both from young guys who do good work but it turns out don't carry insurance. This was on an easy walk 35sq roof to strip, dispose, ice&wwater on lower six feet, and anil on architectural grade comp shingles. Labor and materials about $200/sq
If I don't find spomebody with insurance, I'll have to cover that as an addon cost and add to the markup so 260 or so will be reasonable.
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Not carrying insurance speaks volumes about a "contractor". I would'nt give those guys the time of day let alone a job.
They're not contractors when they are working for you without insurance, they are employees. Liability won't cut it and hardly matters here. It's the comp that counts.
In many markets, for certain elements of work, and roofing comes first to mind, it is nearly impossible to hire fully-insured subs. That's why we cover ourselves with workers comp, and pay for their coverage when we hire them.
It is simple math, but an uninsured sub should charge for and get less than his fully insured counterpart. There always needs to be an on-the-table understanding of this when bidding and negotiating work.
Same here. The state does not require comp from an individual working directly for the HO. when I get in the middle as GC I cover the insurance and add it on, plus profit. They are still a legitamate sub in the eyes of the state.
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The comp only covers the worker and protects you and the HO from being sued in the event he gets hurt. If he has no liability insurance then everything he does or doesnt do right becomes your problem.
As I said, if he is uninsured, he becomes and employee, whether he is being paid by the hour, by the square, or by the piece. My comp covers him, and I have liability.
Where exactly is the risk? No more risk than if I am paying my crew guys to do the roofing.
The risk is the guy has'nt put himself out there as a legitimate business. He knows the liability falls on your shoulders so why should he care about the quality of his work or any damage done by his crew?
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things, especially roofing. What happens when 4 years down the road you get a call from the HO telling you the 30 year roof is leaking? Can you even find these guys again?
I know of guys also who would love to go out on comp. If they are the ones paying the premiums chances are that wont happen.
Just my opinion but instead of buying blanket coverage you are better off putting the money in their envelope and insisting on insurance certificates. Good luck!
I've made the first check out to the insurance company and withheld anymore payment until I get a certificate. Once they've got the coverage they tend to maintain it.