Driving by the local roofer’s yard the other day I noticed they had taken a trailer like this
http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp?pcID=3&paID=1023&sonID=733&page=1&productID=789
and added 4 foot plywood/osb sides to haul away the old roofing debris with.
They had a couple of these trailers. So I am supposing they work at least decently. Does anybody have an idea what 6’x10’x4′ of old roofing would weight. My old roof has two layers of 20 year shingles. How many squares would you expect would fit on one load?
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Depend on how neatly/tightly you stack the debris, but I usually figure 1 CY per 3 squares of roofing. Given that, your 6'x10'x4' trailer should hold around 26 squares of debris (13 squares of your 2-layer roof), which would end up weighing somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,200 lbs assuming 200#/square (a reasonable assumption for 20-year shingles). That's just a bit more than the rated capacity of the trailer.
Bob
I've used a small trailer like that on small tear-offs. Don't make your plywood sides more than 2" tall and you'll still have it overloaded going to the dump. You can easily tear a hitch up with a single axle trailer like that. It's hard to judge tongue weight. With a tandem axle trailer, less weight bears on the tongue.
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Well the roof is approx sixteen squares. So each load going to the dump would weigh about 3200 if we use your 200# to the square number. I believe the sun bakes some oil out of old shingles and granules fall off. So they probably weigh less than 200#.
I may buy a tandem axle. It's probably not much more money. Heavier duty trailer would be better for hauling fire wood to the city.
Thanks for the info.
I would assume more than 200#They were 240 to start with, and might have lost weight via solar drying down to 215, but you will also add the 15# of felt and a couple pounds of nails and maybe some dust, so you are bnack up to close to the original weight nominal. Figure a nice round 250#/sq to be safe rather than sorry.
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Farmer Dave,
I have been in the roofing business going on 18 years now---and I own neither a dump truck OR a dump trailer.
I don't know if this helps you----but look in your local newspapers' clasiffied Ads under " Hauling"------here in Akron , Ohio I have always been able to get a guy with a dump truck to come out and clean up our tear-off debris for $8-$10/ square.-------your load would cost me maybe $300-$320----way cheaper than buy a trailer for a one time shot.
the reason I do it this way is that I don't have to own the dump truck, I don't have to maintain the dump truck, I don't have to insure the dump truck, I don't have to park the dump truck each night, I don't have to have an additional employee to drive the dump truck-----and most importantly , I don't have to LOAD the dumptruck!!!!!!!
I do the math every year or so---and for my operation in 18 years, owning a dump truck or trailer has never been cost effective.
Best wishes, Stephen
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Dave,
I don't know what part of Missouri you are in, but there are scores of hometown trailer manufacturers around Missouri, Oklahoma, and NE Texas. Don't waste your money on a cheapie when you can put a couple hundred with it and buy a 7 x 16 or so tandem.
Also, I bet a good trailer rents pretty cheaply at one of your local gas stations. Here, the trailers like I described above rent for $25 a day, or $75 for the heavy-haulin' hydraulic dumpin' gooseneckers.
You can't have too much trailer when you do any roofing at all.
Dave, You will never regret going tandem axle with any trailer that is intended for construction, especially roofing. I have a single axle 6x12 utility and wish it were tandem. I also have a tandem axle enclosed 6x12 and will never buy a single axle again. Four tires are always better than two for a variety of reasons. Jay
Around here the local waste agency will drop off a large cart in your driveway - like 8x6x20 for 10 days then take it away again for you for about $400. This may save you alot of time, money and effort if you don't need the trailer for other things.
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Yeah ...
but Stephen would still have to load it ...
something tells me he don't like that part?
still ... a roll off was gonna be my next suggestion.
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Yes, but if they can Roll Off right under his eaves... it will make demo a bit less messy.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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or get it close and build a chute.
though most times ... it's the blue tarp drag ....
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