Question about rossete placement on door trim. When installing rossetes and fluted casements, should the side and head casing sit centered to the rossete? I read in a carpentry book (can’t remember which) that the side and head casement both meet at the reveal line (corner to corner) and the rosette sits to that. Which do you guys prefer as the “proper way”?
Joe
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Joe
Align the rosette with the revel line, in line with the casing on the jamb.
I've seen it done where the casing was centered on the rosette but they were old doors and there was plenty room to do so, newer doors don't have enough width to do that. Hope that makes sense.
Yeah, I figure that would look better to. Thanks Doug
Ditto. Side and head casing meet at the corner of the rosette. Cut to fit, attach with biscuits while it's on the floor, stand her up and nail her down. If the rosette doesn't sit proud enough from the casing, I'll glue a spacer to the back. I like my rosettes mighty proud.
Nick, you attach the rosettes to the casement with biscuits and make the trim all one piece and then attach it?
Yep. Though only with medium and larger rosettes. There are smaller (2.25") rosettes which are too small (unsafe) to use the biscuit joiner on, in my opinion. Biscuiting allows nailing up the casing with minimal nails in the rosette, which sometimes causes the thing to shift, opening gaps.
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I like to center them in the casing, which means the corner of the rosette comes right to the corner of the jamb. (Assuming the rosette is 1/2" or so wider than the casing). I've found the best way to attach them is with a bit of Gorilla glue in the middle and 1 finish nail to hold them until the glue sets. You'd need a crow bar to get them off.
That's my preference, too. 4-1/2" rosettes to the corner over 4" casing centered (2-1/2" over 2" for more dainty installs). Biscuits optional.
Hope this helps. Rich.
Don't know if any way is the proper way but I would make the rosette a quarter inch wider than the casing and the same width as the plinth block. The rosette and plinth would then have an 1/8" reveal each side of the casing and an 1/8" reveal on the jamb. The casing would have a 1/4" reveal. If you are worried as I am often enough, you can drill pilot holes to guide the nail from the casing into the thin jamb stock. I make the rosettes and the plinth an inch thick and the casing 7/8" thick. I use biscuits too. On many doors, anything less than 1/4" reveal could interfere with the hinge.
me .... I'm a traditionalist when dealing with traditional trim ...
which ... to me ... means centering them ...
having the rosette have that extra reveal.
same deal with the plinth .. as said above.
Plinths and rosettes are bigger for a reason.
Jeff
Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
Plinths and rosettes are bigger for a reason.
Plinths are bases and rosettes are capitals, so they should be centered...but unless you make your own sometimes you can't be too choosy on the size.
Either way do you think most people would notice the difference?