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“rotten” hardie?

townail | Posted in General Discussion on November 2, 2009 04:37am

Has anyone encountered this type of “erosion” with Hardie? This particular area was run far to close (touching on some pieces) to the roof but I noticed other angle cuts are flaking along cut on other walls . My supplier suggested the possibility of warranty…any thoughts or experiences.

Thanks,

TN

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    IMERC | Nov 02, 2009 04:45pm | #1

    the cut end wasn't sealed...

    the courses were put down too close to the shingles...

    the rest followed natural chain of events...

    and yes I'veseeh that before..

     

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  2. frammer52 | Nov 02, 2009 05:35pm | #2

    Go to the Hardie website and look at their instructions for installation.  You will find real problems with your install.

    I am not sure if they have always wanted to have the siding start 2" u[ from the shingles, but I suspect they have.

  3. DanH | Nov 02, 2009 06:53pm | #3

    If that's Hardie I'm glad I don't have it. I've seen crummy hardboard hold up better than that. (Does Hardie really delaminate like that??)

    That said, of course the stuff was improperly installed, voiding any warranty. Should have held the siding back 1-2" from the roof, and should have primed/painted the cut edges.

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  4. Dudley | Nov 02, 2009 07:24pm | #4

    On a dormer - I stick a 2x4 against the roof shingles and then I nail a 2" wide piece of Azek on top of the Hardi plank -- stick some 1" foam board above the Azek and and behind the Hardi plank - no problem after 12 years; have not even had to go back up a touch up

    As I cut each piece of Hardi plank, I had a milk jug filled with paint to seal each edge -- really slopped it on

    1. johnharkins | Nov 02, 2009 08:23pm | #5

      as others have stated these application methods leave much to be desiredthere have been many versions of Hardie
      Louisiana Pacific & their version of Hardie have been in the courts for the last 25 yrs defending their inferior product
      Weyerhaueser made one that wasn't much better
      there is a lot of schlock out there
      hopefully the real Hardie stands the test of time

  5. MikeHennessy | Nov 02, 2009 09:31pm | #6

    Are you sure that's Hardi brand FC siding? I'd be surprised if it is, 'cause it seems to be some sort of laminated construction & I don't think Hardi is. Also, I have a chunk of Hardi Panel that I use to cover my AC condenser. It's outside on top of the condenser all winter, and sitting on the ground all summer, and it's none the worse for wear after 3 years now.

    That said, installing it like that with zero gap is probably enough to void any warranty, whoever the manufacturer is.

    Mike Hennessy
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Everything fits, until you put glue on it.

    1. MikeSmith | Nov 02, 2009 09:50pm | #7

      i agree with you... doesn't look like hardie

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      and i doubt that you could  make hardie do what the pic shows... i suspect it is some other mfr

      BTW... my favorite FC is Certainteed ( they bought out the old Ashland-Davis ).... Hardie is my 2d choiceMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

      1. DanH | Nov 02, 2009 09:53pm | #8

        Yeah, almost looks like the old asbestos-cement stuff, or some sort of hardboard.
        A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter

      2. Hiker | Nov 02, 2009 09:56pm | #9

        I have seen Hardie product delaminate like that-The exposed ends suck up the water and watch the layers pop. 

         

  6. excaliber32 | Nov 03, 2009 04:27am | #10

    I don't think that any siding will survive a waterfall.

    1. townail | Nov 03, 2009 06:12am | #11

      Thanks for your all the input.......I realized that the install was incorrect for any type of siding however I surveyed more areas of the building today...not all roof line were done this way. Even some of the roof lines with 2"+/- between shingles and siding showed signs of minor "flaking" above the cut edge ... typically evident in wood installed to close, but surprised that fibe-cement would react like this even with unprimed cuts. I maintain several buildings with with wood siding, same detail , no end cut priming, but 15-30 years older than this (this building circa. 1996) with no rot!! This is also a multi-residential condo complex with many questionable exterior details and the siding was not well applied.

      Is this actual Hardie? ...the original spec is 6 1/4" Smooth Hardie from the builder and the plans...I still have some original pieces so i will verify that it is.

      Thanks

      TN

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