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   MisterT | Oct 28, 2004 12:39am | #1

   A lot of hurricane and earthquake prone areas dont allow clipped heads.

   But here in upstate NY they are still kosher.

   I like clipped head nailers for the steeper angle and the shorter magazine.

   also with full head nails you either get wire collated or plastic collated.

   with wire you get bent racks and wire shrapnel.

   with Plastic you get (easily) broken/damaged racks that jam the gun, and plastic shrapnel.

   clipped head nails are usually paper or plastic tape collated so you don't get any shrapnel and broken racks will still feed thru just fine.

   JMNSHO

    

   Mr T

   I can't afford to be affordable anymore

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   notrix | Oct 28, 2004 01:18am | #2

   Here in SoCal. It's strictly full head round nails accepted.

   Oddly a 16d collated nail is about 1/4" shorter that a 16d sinker. Perhaps that's part of it.

   Sorry I haven't used the new Hitachi, I'm a big fan of Max and recommend them highly.

   W

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   skyecore | Oct 28, 2004 02:03am | #3

   thanks for the info guys. Yeah that plastic shrapnal is terrably annoying! got one im my ear canal a few weeks ago, made me want to hit the gun with a hammer(probably a good idea!), but alas I think i probably am stuck with round heads. what about those nails from paslode to fit in a clipped head nailer but have full heads (I think the heads are just angled so they fit) you guys ever used those? and if so, do they fit in other clipped head nail-guns or just the paslode powermasters?

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   Sasquatch | Oct 28, 2004 02:54am | #4

   I use RH nails exclusively for structural reasons.

   One problem with the CH nails is the paper strips that hold them in strips.  Leave them out overnight in a damp climate, and you may have a jamming problem.

   The plastic RH schrapnel is minor if you wear your safety glasses.

   Les Barrett Quality Construction
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   blue_eyed_devil | Oct 28, 2004 03:27am | #5

   Les, ironically only the big brands...senco and paslode deteriorate in the wetness overnight. I use generix...and I typically keep my personal box in the bed of the truck...exposed to the weather at all times. the generix get ruined after a few months....Senco is mush overnight.

   blueIf you want to read a fancy personal signature...  go read someone else's post.

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   Sasquatch | Oct 28, 2004 05:07am | #6

   When I can control the job, nails will be protected.  While working on a large government residential project last year,  I noticed that there was no such control.   We had the opportunity to waste about $300.00 worth of nails per day by leaving them out overnight or we took the initiative to save the nails that were opened but not used up each day.  I do not know of anyone, other than me, who bothered to protect these resources.  This is a project that lasted two years.  None of the brands you mentioned were used.  All of the CH nails we had were susceptible to water damage.  We used several brands of RH nails.  None of these presented a problem.Les Barrett Quality Construction

4. 
   RobKress | Oct 28, 2004 06:16am | #7

   Skye,

   Just get a Max stick framer and shoot clipped or round head all day long from the same gun (which ever suites the job).  I use Paslode nails in my gun because they just simply don't pull out after you shoot them in.  Paslode is the company that I know of that offers both full round and clipped that will shoot from the Max gun.  And the Max gun is just a fabulous work horse.  But it is a heavier gun than some (which I like and appreciate).

   Rob Kress

5. 
   ClaysWorld | Oct 28, 2004 06:18pm | #8

   I'm not sure but if you look at this report there are some issues that allow for ch-nails

   http://www.paslode.com/products/tool_catalog/pdfs/bc/NER-272.pdf

6. 
   ClaysWorld | Oct 28, 2004 06:25pm | #9

   I also fond this on the Paslode page

   	Question
   	Does Paslode offer a full head nail?
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   	Answer
   	Yes, Paslode© manufactures coil nails which are full round head nails and Roundrive¯ strip nails that are full offset head nails. Paslode's©  Patented Roundrive¯ fasteners are designed to work with our 30 Degree framing tools, both the Pneumatic 30 Degree framing tool and Paslode¯ Cordless 30 Degree tool. Fasteners can be purchased through our retail and distribution channels. Visit our Dealer locater to find your nearest dealer. Thank you for visiting Paslode's support website

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   skyecore | Oct 29, 2004 06:56am | #10

   Thanks everyone. so my question is this: anyone know if you can use those paslode full head nails in any clipped head nail gun? they are all 30degrees right?

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   MisterT | Oct 29, 2004 12:23pm | #11

   Are they true full head nails?

   I have seen nails with a crescent shaped head.

   looks like a cookie with a small bite out of it.

   But if a full head nail is collated so it will feed all they way into firing position Every time,  then I don't see why it wouldn't work.

    

   Mr T

   I can't afford to be affordable anymore

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   ClaysWorld | Oct 29, 2004 04:13pm | #12

   (full offset head nails) are made to shoot in the paslode nailers. I've got a older 5300plus chnailer and the new offset nails work in that so if you can use the older chnails in whatever gun your using it would seem that they would take the new nails.

    That is only opinion but that is my guess.