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Saving and using the old wavy glass

Gene_Davis | Posted in General Discussion on September 14, 2008 03:01am

If the client proceeds with the addition to this old foursquare house I discussed in another thread, the removal of over 50 lineal feet of glassed-in porch will yield a whole lot of lites of “old” glass, the kind with the waves.

This might turn out to be quite a bonanza for doing future kitchen work when the client wants glass doors done with clear glass.  I have seen cabinets glazed with antique glass, and it gives the job a nice cachet.

If you have used this type of glass, what are the pitfalls?

 

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    McDesign | Sep 14, 2008 03:17am | #1

    I've used my stockpile for kitchen cabinets and French doors - all non-tempered.

    Cutting it's a little more of a cr@pshoot; trimming if you miss a little bit is really tough.  My glass shop won't guantee their cuts in old glass.

    I just try to be smooth and keep a sharp cutter in motor oil; one pass, it BETTER sound like frying bacon, or I'm lost . . .

    Sometimes there's a haze that won't come off - even with solvents and razors.

    Looks great, though!

    Forrest

    1. gfretwell | Sep 14, 2008 05:41am | #2

      Stained glass folks love that stuff. I agree it may not score and snap like newer glass.
      Make sure it is squeaky clean before you start. Dirty glass won't score right.

    2. joeh | Sep 14, 2008 07:46pm | #13

      Sometimes there's a haze that won't come off

      Wonder if that "haze" isn't the result of a hundred years of wind and grit?

      Sandblasted by time, ain't coming off ever.

      Joe H

      1. Piffin | Sep 14, 2008 08:03pm | #14

        I don't know about other places, but near the salt water here can make it go grey after a couple hundred years. 

         

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          McDesign | Sep 15, 2008 12:58am | #16

          <the salt water here can make it go grey after a couple hundred years. >

          Doncha' jus' hate 'at?  Seems like nuthin' lasts any more!

          Forrest

          1. Piffin | Sep 15, 2008 01:23am | #17

            LOL, Really bothered my wife the first year we moved here and she had work washing windows....she'd wash and wash and wash.... 

             

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  2. junkhound | Sep 14, 2008 06:12am | #3

    Only way that works for me to cut it is a clean scribe as said,  CLean glass WELL before attempting to score it. Never try to snap along the score.Instead, tap lightly at the back starting from the edge with water on the score and watch the crack progress slowly.  > 80% success rate that way, 10% trying to score and snap.

    I've thrown away a lot of old glass after bad cuts learning the above. Have only used it for stained glass where most the cuts are also not straight.

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    Sphere | Sep 14, 2008 02:36pm | #4

    I got 2,812 M.O.L. on my current job. In the last 2 yrs removed and replaced close to 700..its touchy stuff for certain.

    All you can do is cross your fingers and hope. It breaks just from being OUT of the sash and stress relieved and thermal exp and contraction, any nick along an old cut edge is a future crack.

    BTW, it  is a avail at my glass shop, at 50$ for a 10x18 pane. And no, it don't get cheaper with volumne.

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      PaulBinCT | Sep 14, 2008 03:32pm | #6

      50 bucks a pane????????????

      A deal's a deal, but if I told you how little I was able to get for the approx 250 pieces I have sitting in my shop you'd puke.PaulB

       

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        Gene_Davis | Sep 14, 2008 04:30pm | #7

        That settles it.  All the sash will go in the dumpster, glass and all.

        I'll just go to the glass shop when I need some. 

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        1. junkhound | Sep 14, 2008 05:32pm | #8

          Please tell us the location of the dumpster <G>

        2. reinvent | Sep 14, 2008 05:41pm | #9

          Donate it to a local stain glass artist.
          Or turn the sash into coffee tables by adding legs to them.

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            Sphere | Sep 14, 2008 05:45pm | #10

            No, ya pull the glass and replace with mirror. Man, they sell like hot cakes in some locales..no kidding, I was amazed.

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          2. Piffin | Sep 14, 2008 07:32pm | #11

            Had one ID who wanted the panels out and replaced with brass chicken wire and fabric behind that. 

             

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        3. Waters | Sep 14, 2008 08:07pm | #15

          Is there a salvage spot near you?  There are two outfits here that would be salivating for that stuff and you get a write off. 

  4. RedfordHenry | Sep 14, 2008 03:29pm | #5

    As McD noted, sometimes there is a "patina" that just won't clean off.  I just replaced 8 double hungs in a circa 1840 house.  Many very unusual panes with swirls and large bubbles but many were very dirty looking, even after attempted cleaning with a number of different solvents. 

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    Luka | Sep 14, 2008 07:38pm | #12

    Gene, don't throw that glass away.

    Run ads to sell it.

    You'd be surprised how much that old glass will sell for.

    Even if left in the sash.

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