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1. 
   EricPaulson | Nov 24, 2008 05:19am | #1

   Good.

   What else would you like to know?

    

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   user-253667 | Nov 24, 2008 05:30am | #2

   Even gooder.

   Anything else?

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   JoshRountree | Nov 24, 2008 06:45am | #3

   Everyone that I hear of that uses them won't do a shower any other way now.

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   sully13 | Nov 24, 2008 08:15am | #4

   excellent system with easy instructions

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   cadd6 | Nov 24, 2008 01:23pm | #5

   So gooder a carpenter can do it

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   Pelipeth | Nov 24, 2008 02:29pm | #6

   I just saw Tom Silva install the system. Seems as if you can wall paper, you can put their system up with NO problem, albiet alittle sloppy. The pre-sloped floor pans also seem to make it a no brainer. My question to ALL is why would one feel compelled to do the whole shower/tub wall area? I have repaired well over 100 shower/tub areas and NEVER encountered tile/wall failure more than 16-18 inches up from the shower/tub lip. My work, for the most part does not include rental properties with slum lords. Your not building a boat. It's also my understanding that the warranty is only 5 yrs.

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   user-253667 | Nov 24, 2008 06:35pm | #8

   It must be regional differences but every single shower I have deconstructed had water penetration into substrates and fasteners from base to shower head to varying degrees.

   Kerdi addresses this extremely well. No premature failure or mould issues.

   One concern for me is the double vapour barrier issue on exterior walls. Maybe have to use xps styro and cement board in those apps.

   The other beautiful aspect of Kerdi is the wet room approach ie. kerbless showers as the europeans and aussies do.

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   bd | Nov 24, 2008 06:02pm | #7

   Check out Chuck Stevens thread about the addition to his house. He goes through the whole process, step-by-step. Very detailed & thorough. The thread is pretty long so you'll have to scan down until you start seeing the pics of the inside work.

   http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=79773.514

   I just checked that link & it opens after the shower work is done. Looks like you have to go backwards in the thread.

   
   

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   Edited 11/24/2008 10:05 am ET by bd

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   user-253667 | Nov 24, 2008 06:42pm | #9

   Almost forgot.. if you don't or won't follow instructions to the letter then stick to other less elegant materials.

   Schluter specifies unmodified thinset mortar and they mean it!!!

   Modified thinset will not cure behind/between the Kerdi.

   Another thing.....  that square drain is sweet, no more crappy curved cuts and it can be aligned perfectly with the grout lines.

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   inperfectionist | Nov 24, 2008 11:15pm | #10

   I've done a couple Kerdi showers.The drain is so sweet, it's worth using Kerdi just so you can use the drain.I know there are contractors in my parts that are only coming up off the floor the width of the roll w Kerdi. They say they don't have any problems.Harry

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   user-253667 | Nov 25, 2008 01:34am | #13

   How do you/they know there are no problems ;)

   I think the philosophy of Kerdi is to separate all substrates and fasteners from the tile with an impervious membrane. A grout joint is not impervious. :)

   Myself, why save a few bucks and not finish the job as per Schluter.

   I long ago ceased to be smarter than the manufacturer of the product I am using.

   YMMV as regards any and all short cuts.

   None off my clients would be chuffed if they caught on to that sort of nickle and diming.

    

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   YesMaam27577 | Nov 24, 2008 11:52pm | #11

   Agreed on the square drain.....Probably takes an hour less for me...

   Politics is the antithesis of problem solving.

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   Scooter1 | Nov 24, 2008 11:56pm | #12

   More expensive than pvc, about 25-50% more. 

   No quality difference between pvc and Kerdi. 

   Regards, Scooter "I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow." WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934