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   Madison's_dad | Feb 15, 2001 08:56am | #1

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   I just came in from my shop I was painting three gates with Schreuder Hascolac primer / undercoat. What can I say this paint is so superior to any thing I have ever seen, I sing its praise so much I should be paid (-: Really this good paint! a little back ground.

   I am not a painting contractor! I bild custom furniture (and outdoor gates when the father of a good client asks) I first ran into Schreuder was at a clients house two years ago, he raved,the painter raved and I cut a label from a can and filled it away. (they where painting the exterior) The next time I ran in to it was at the furniture shop a friend of mine worked at they only used Schreuder on their pained stuff this is a supper hi end shop .

   So now it is all I will use on my furniture ,my house any thing that gets paint or varnish. Many years ago I worked for a great painter during the summer he turned me on to Purdy pro brushes we used a 3" oval for every thing, any way I have allway's tried to use the best tools I could, this brings me to the Omega brushes, wow the s-55-3 is heaven. I would love to try the pointed round sash brush but I cant justify it with out painting my house.

   Do you have the Specifier's manual from Fine Paints Of Europe? I ask because if you told a client that this is the best money can buy and lent them this manual it would be a sale every time!

   The only down side I can find with the Hascolac is the solvent smell is stronger than any other paint I have used, all most un barible in my shop.. I know don't say it I should have ventilation!

   Chris

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   Jeff_Clarke_ | Feb 15, 2001 04:57pm | #2

   *MD - If you like Purdy pro you should also take a look at E & J Ox bristle. (sorry for butting in). I've heard good things about Schreuder from one or two painters but it's hearsay.

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   Madison's_dad | Feb 15, 2001 10:13pm | #3

   *Hay Jeff I have heard of them do they have a web site to drool at? You can see the Omega and Whistlier brushes at http://www.finepaints.com just for fun {=:

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   bobl_ | Feb 15, 2001 10:21pm | #4

   *You folks got me interested in this line of paints. Found this site on the web.http://www.dutchpaints.com/index.htmlwonder why they have two sites? Know companies often have more then one domain name, but they usually go to the same place.

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   Madison's_dad | Feb 16, 2001 06:22pm | #5

   *boblI have know Idea why its the same site. try a Euro quart and you will never go back. Has any one used the Obolux odorless interior paint is it relay odorless? Chris

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   bobl_ | Feb 16, 2001 06:44pm | #6

   *I'm planning on painting some kitchen cabinets (existing and new) so this caught my eye. Lot of things mentioned fit my idea of what the end result should look like. so the search, even found a relatively local dealer. I plan on investigating the Obolux odorless interior paint, their chart indicates its use on cabinets (although they may not have ment kitchen). Appreciate the thread and the posts started.

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   Madison's_dad | Feb 16, 2001 07:12pm | #7

   *boblEmail FPoE and ask for the Specifier's manual it's vary cool.Chris

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   bobl_ | Feb 16, 2001 07:48pm | #8

   *Didthanks

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   Mongo_ | Feb 17, 2001 04:12am | #9

   *There's also a similar brand put out by a guy named Kaufman..."Paints by Kaufman," something like that.You boys are right...a whole new level with these types of pigments. As a sales tool, take something like a 3' by 6' chunk of half-inch MDF and paint a 3' square section with "regular" paint and the other half of the board with either a Kaufman or a Fine Paints paint...similar colors, of course.Let the homeowner keep this board in their house for a few days. The regular paint will look dead and flat round the clock, while as the day progresses and the interior lighting of the room changes, the subtleties and nuances of the heavy pigmentation in the premium paint will become quite apparent.They are pricey, but then again...most of the better things are.Well...I spent about 10 minutes trying a web search to find a Kaufman website, but came up empty. Here is, however, a brief piece that did come up that mentions both Kaufman and Fine Paints of Europe.

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   Madison's_dad | Feb 17, 2001 08:43am | #10

   *Hi MongoI got to the same artical,the Kaufman paints use Benny More (Bengamin Moore )and Brat and Lamebert (Prat and Lambert) both good paints, Benny was my favorite. I bet for intearoir they would be fine,the depth sounds interesting. But its the makeup of the shreuder paint that has me convinced.The artical suggests that Fine Paints started the company, not so started in Holland in 1850. Fine Paints started importing in the 1980's ?

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   Mongo_ | Feb 17, 2001 04:17pm | #11

   *If you're looking for a 1 v 1 comparison, I'd agree that Schreuder is a superior product. Kaufman (my impression) jumped on the "look at this" bandwagon. His big "look at me" deal is not using black to shade colors, like all US paint manufacturers do. He uses pigments across the color wheel to mute or enhance coloration...just like we all did when we learned to mix colors from the three primaries back in third-grade art class. Simplified, but in essence, that's it.Schreuder's pigments, in my eyes, are superior to Kaufman's. Still, both are very nice paints, far superior to anything domestically mass-produced. You can get virtually the same pigments Kaufman uses at an art store and with practice mix a similar batch. Schreuder processes their own pigments.That said, both are good products. If I had to choose one...I'd go Dutch.

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   Rein_Taul | Feb 17, 2001 08:58pm | #12

   *I have heard rumour that many high end paint companies are putting more dye in their paints. It 'punches up' the colour, creating a better first impression. Dye fades with UV, while most pigments don't.This may be just rumour, but it is worth checking out each manufacturer before use.

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   Carl_Shaw | Feb 19, 2001 08:47pm | #13

   *I do a fair amount of painting and I'm not against trying different products (though I do have my regular brand) I looked up the local Schreuder dealer (10 minute drive) and stopped by. Very nice man and nice little store but I see one problem with this paint. $75.00 per ero-gallon of Obolux (aprox. 3 qts.) If any of my clients want it I'll be passing the cost to them.

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    Madison's_dad | Feb 24, 2001 06:44am | #14

    *Thats the only way Carl, in fact I use it as a sales tool "Well mrsQ if you wont the best its X and it cost XX more but its the best. I do charge a little extra for using X but your saving in the long run more than make up for it. (:This only works if the jaguar in the drive way is farlly new. ChrisEdward have you used any yet. I just got a small can of the Marine Yacht Varnish and a can of the Avel Wax to play with.

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    bobl_ | Feb 25, 2001 02:05am | #15

    *I sent away for the manual, recieved it today. With it camea slip to call for a sample of the matte Obolux, small shipping charge. (haven't called yet)So if your interested send for the manual, you might get the sample offer.

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    Mongo_ | Feb 25, 2001 05:27am | #16

    *The place near me that sells FPoE allows you to "rent a quart" for two dollars.Pick a color, pay your two bucks, bring it home and try it out. Bring back the leftover paint (or just then empty can) a few days later.They sell much more since they started this program. When people see it on their walls, they want it.

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   edward_reilly | Feb 25, 2001 05:27am | #17

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   I was more than thrilled when I read about the philosophy and quality attributed to Schreuder paints and their distributor, Fine Paints of Europe. However, they are certainly a costly addition that requires a bit of selling on my part as the painting contractor. Naturally I am thrilled that a coating such as Schreuder can convincingly claim it will last twice as long as a premium national brand . I would like to know if any painters have used this coating on an exterior, and would appreciate their input on the quality of the product. I am currently looking at exterior work that would be perfect for this product IF it is really what they make it out to be. It is amazing that even with excellent preparation , a premium quality national brand can only be expected to hold up for five years.