FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Screen porch spline/groove question

mmoogie | Posted in Construction Techniques on July 22, 2009 07:15am

I’m getting around to doing the screens on a screen porch I’m building, and I’m wondering about the sizing of the splines and their respective groove. I was thinking of starting with an 1/8″ groove and the 1/8″ (.125) spline. The thought being that as the groove in the wood got sloppier, you could always step up to the next spline.

I’m using pine for the perimeter that I’m splining screening onto. Pretty soft wood. The smallest available spline is .125″, stepping up .140, .160, .175, .190. I was thinking of starting with an 1/8″ groove and the 1/8″ (.125) spline.

Does this sound right to those of you who’ve made their own spline grooves in the past? Should the groove be the same size as the spline? larger maybe? Is there some reason I might want to start with a larger spline than 1/8″?

Also, I’m using the fairly thick pet screening.

Steve

Reply
  • X
  • facebook
  • linkedin
  • pinterest
  • email
  • add to favorites Log in or Sign up to save your favorite articles

Replies

  1. calvin | Jul 22, 2009 01:32pm | #1

    Here's what I did several yrs ago.

    Rooted around a box of "odd" bits I had collected and found something larger than an eighth-but smaller than qtr.  Made the groove-the posts and beam were already installed so I wanted to use my laminate trimmer- got a few inches of all available splines.

    Tried them all, picked the one I thought most resembled the "push" needed in aluminum screen frames.

    No pullout in all these yrs.

    Get pcs, give it a test.

    A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

    Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

    http://www.quittintime.com/

     



    Edited 7/22/2009 6:34 am ET by calvin

    1. User avater
      mmoogie | Jul 22, 2009 02:20pm | #2

      >>Get pcs, give it a test.<<I was kind of hoping to avoid that part of it...Oh well.

  2. User avater
    Sphere | Jul 22, 2009 02:21pm | #3

    Yeah, 1/8" and 1/8" works well most of the time. Fiberglass screen is a bit thinner or less grabby in the groove VS. Alum. But stays stuck.

    Most of the screening I've done has been in softer wood. And if you prime the sash before screening, and some gets in the groove, yer still OK.

    I bow all the frames with clamps before screening so it comes out real nice and tight when I'm done rolling in the screen..like a drum. Nothing like a carpenter bee bouncing off like being hit with a tennis racket when they fly into a screen.

    Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

    Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

    "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"
    Jed Clampitt

    View Image

    1. wane | Jul 22, 2009 03:01pm | #4

      Skip the spline and just staple the screen to the edge of the pine, use quarter round in the opening as stops and to hide the staples.

      1. User avater
        Sphere | Jul 22, 2009 03:05pm | #5

        Remember the name of this site's sponser?  What part of FINE does stapled screens fall under?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

        Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

        "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

        View Image

        1. User avater
          mmoogie | Jul 22, 2009 04:41pm | #6

          Thanks Duane.I'm going to cover the spline with a wood cover strip when done, so stapling would be OK, but I want to spline for easier future repairs and to get a snugger installation.

        2. wane | Jul 22, 2009 06:45pm | #7

          fine does not equate to expensive, complicated, or ..

          1. User avater
            Sphere | Jul 22, 2009 06:56pm | #8

            It's neither more exp. or complicated to install a spline than staples, and you dont get them uneven tautness lines that staples can leave show.

            I (for one) can tell the difference in screening of how it was installed.  And replacement w/spline is a heckuva lot easier.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

            View Image

          2. User avater
            Dam_inspector | Jul 22, 2009 08:31pm | #9

            Yeah, who wants to remove a zillion staples to change out a screen, and buy new molding because the old will be damaged or broken by the time it's off.Edit to say I would probably staple it myself because it's easier than routing a grove and finding spline to fit. Also, done right, stapled screen can be tight. You have to stretch the screen tight before stapling it. There are several easy ways to do that.

            Edited 7/22/2009 1:34 pm ET by Dam_inspector

          3. User avater
            Sphere | Jul 22, 2009 08:41pm | #10

            I don't rout the spline grooves, just a pass over the TS. I have used a router to finish up inside corners and such, but non-thin kerf TS blades make a decently wide groove mostly.

            And I have seen too many unevenly stretched screens to want one stapled. And besides, with a spline, no moulding is even needed if not specifically wanted to hide the spline.

            Whatever floats the boat I guess, if I'm being paid to make nice screens ( and I have, many) I do the spline as a matter of business practice.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

            View Image

          4. stevent1 | Jul 22, 2009 09:37pm | #11

            Steve,I built two screen doors this spring with pet screen. I used a 3/16" groove and .125 spline.
            The pet screen I used was a scant 1/16".Chuck S.live, work, build, ...better with wood

          5. User avater
            mmoogie | Jul 23, 2009 02:17am | #12

            Well, I went with a pass of a non thin-kerf blade on the table saw. Measured exactly 1/8". Then tried the .125 with the petscreen. It went in, but was a hard fit, so I took a second pass on the table saw. Couldn't have added much more than 1/64", but it made it go in much easier. Proof will be when I actually mount the screens. Lots of perimeters to install before that happens.Steve

          6. User avater
            Sphere | Jul 23, 2009 02:20am | #13

            If you stretch the spline as you roll it in, it goes easier.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

            View Image

          7. larryb | Jul 23, 2009 03:47am | #14

            I have been looking for a way to retrofit scrren porches.  Mostly they hang way out over the mountain.

            Getting the old stapeled screen off is easy.  Putting it back on is dangerous at age 62.

            Perhaps a 3/4 stick of some wood with a spline groove...

             Duane you inspire me.        larry b

          8. User avater
            Sphere | Jul 23, 2009 03:59am | #15

            Glad to be of inspiring nature for you, no sense in taking hard earned techniques and knowldge to the grave now is there?

            My first screen exp. was with waxed jute spline...not because rubber was not to be had, but the customer wanted it an exact reproduction of the old.

            Now go fix yer dang screens (G)Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

            View Image

          9. User avater
            Dam_inspector | Jul 23, 2009 05:56am | #16

            One thing I don't like about aluminum screen and spline is that sometimes the cut edge of the screen is sharp, but other than that it is a better way to do screen.

          10. User avater
            Sphere | Jul 23, 2009 02:57pm | #17

            Gotta angle the knife into the groove a tad when ya cut the screen. Against the side of the groove, then roll with the concave edge of the roller to tuck any "fingers" down.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

            View Image

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

How Trump's “Big Beautiful Bill” Will Affect the Inflation Reduction Act

The Big Beautiful Bill could do away with much of the Inflation Reduction Act, including the 25C, 25D and 45L tax credits.

Featured Video

How to Install Exterior Window Trim

Learn how to measure, cut, and build window casing made of cellular PVC, solid wood, poly-ash boards, or any common molding material. Plus, get tips for a clean and solid installation.

Related Stories

  • How Trump's “Big Beautiful Bill” Will Affect the Inflation Reduction Act
  • A Drip-Free, Through-Window Heat Pump
  • Podcast Episode 690: Sharpening, Wires Behind Baseboard, and Fixing Shingle Panels
  • FHB Podcast Segment: Hand Tool Sharpening Tips

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 332 - July 2025
    • Custom Built-ins With Job-Site Tools
    • Fight House Fires Through Design
    • Making the Move to Multifamily
  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Old House Journal – August 2025
    • Designing the Perfect Garden Gate
    • Old House Air-Sealing Basics
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

  • Home Group
  • Antique Trader
  • Arts & Crafts Homes
  • Bank Note Reporter
  • Cabin Life
  • Cuisine at Home
  • Fine Gardening
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Green Building Advisor
  • Garden Gate
  • Horticulture
  • Keep Craft Alive
  • Log Home Living
  • Military Trader/Vehicles
  • Numismatic News
  • Numismaster
  • Old Cars Weekly
  • Old House Journal
  • Period Homes
  • Popular Woodworking
  • Script
  • ShopNotes
  • Sports Collectors Digest
  • Threads
  • Timber Home Living
  • Traditional Building
  • Woodsmith
  • World Coin News
  • Writer's Digest
Active Interest Media logo
X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

Enjoy unlimited access to Fine Homebuilding. Join Now

Already a member? Log in

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in

Privacy Policy Update

We use cookies, pixels, script and other tracking technologies to analyze and improve our service, to improve and personalize content, and for advertising to you. We also share information about your use of our site with third-party social media, advertising and analytics partners. You can view our Privacy Policy here and our Terms of Use here.

Cookies

Analytics

These cookies help us track site metrics to improve our sites and provide a better user experience.

Advertising/Social Media

These cookies are used to serve advertisements aligned with your interests.

Essential

These cookies are required to provide basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website.

Delete My Data

Delete all cookies and associated data