I want to open up a can of worms here…..
In most of the threads I’ve seen not much is mentioned about Senco nail guns and the few comments about Ridgid tools generally were negative……
I’ve seen a lot of Senco used and haven’t heard anybody bad mouth them too much.
I bought a Ridgid 1/2″ corded drill when HD had the special and it holds up good.
I don’t use stuff daily in a trade so I’m just wondering about your experiences with these brands.
I’m kinda wanting to pick up a 15ga and Lowes has a Senco 15ga that comes with a 18ga crown stapler for $199.
What is the collective opinion?
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Can you be model specfic...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
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I knew I could count on you for that question. Why was I not prepared?
I have a Senco 601. I'm not sure about the model on the 15 ga that loews has. But, generally, haven't seen anybody mention Senco here at all.
Have you tried that Rudy's BBQ, yet? I'm interested in what you have to say about it.
I have the SNF40 in the 15ga... Bullet proof... Pricey but more of a seletion in brads.. from 1.25" up to 2.5"
They may have the 30... Know nada about it... other thn it's 1 to 2" brads...
When I want shorter I use and older version of the SLP20 in 18ga...
Then there is the SHP10 - 23ga... Or the SNS40, SNF4, SNF2, SNS2 (I think), or....................
All have lived a life of misery and served well.... for many years.....
buy the better of the line and it's all cake and pie...
at the end of the month for Rudy's...
Also made a special trip to find out what those strobes were....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
As far as Rigid goes...
Jury is still out...
Give it another year or two....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
>>Also made a special trip to find out what those strobes were....<<
Do you mean the Marfa Lights?
reflected car headlights is what I was told.
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I'm not sure what lights he is talking about but the Marfa Lights are a mystery.
"
MARFA LIGHTS. The Marfa lights are visible every clear night between Marfa and Paisano Pass in northeastern Presidio County as one faces the Chinati Mountains. At times they appear colored as they twinkle in the distance. They move about, split apart, melt together, disappear, and reappear. Presidio County residents have watched the lights for over a hundred years. The first historical record of them recalls that in 1883 a young cowhand, Robert Reed Ellison, saw a flickering light while he was driving cattle through Paisano Pass and wondered if it was the campfire of Apache Indians. He was told by other settlers that they often saw the lights, but when they investigated they found no ashes or other evidence of a campsite. Joe and Sally Humphreys, also early settlers, reported their first sighting of the lights in 1885. Cowboys herding cattle on the prairies noticed the lights and in the summer of 1919 rode over the mountains looking for the source, but found nothing. World War Iqv observers feared that the lights were intended to guide an invasion. During World War IIqv pilots training at the nearby Midland Army Air Fieldqv outside Marfa looked for the source of the elusive lights from the air, again with no success. "
So, Sphere...what's your take on the quality of Senco nailers, generally?
I have used a pile of Senco's...never once had a problem. I would be buying one if I was in the need of a new gun. I am still wearing out my bostitch guns and a PC fin nailer. The PC oughttta crap out anyday now.
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Correct me if this is wrong, but it seems to me that Senco introduced the Accuset line a few years ago, presumably to be their price leader. Now those appear to be homogenized into the Senco line as they've introduced some guns that just don't feel or look like the old benchmarks.
I've got a flock of 'em, too... SFN40, SLP20, SLS, M1, SKS, SN1. Some oiless, some oilers. Only one I bought new was the SLP20. The rest came from pawn shops, auctions, ebay. Have to say, I do like the darn things. Come to think of it, I may have a fetish for them...but that's another topic...
PJ
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Begin it
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Edited 10/14/2004 5:46 pm ET by Peter J
Peter
Senco discontinued the Acuset brand, now they make a "cheaper" version Senco. All it amounts to is that they are taking the Acuset and putting a Senco label on it.
The Senco nailers that use oil are generally the homeowner guns.
Doug
Most every Senco I have uses oil and they aren't home owner guns...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
I'd have to question that.
Whats the model no.'s
edit: I see your post to someone else with the models, they must be old as the hills, didnt think any of the "more recent" ones use oil, unless they are the homeowner models.
Edited 10/15/2004 12:22 am ET by Doug@es
The Texas strobe thread...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Nope...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Yup...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Also made a special trip to find out what those strobes were....
The suspense has been killing me, seriously - was I in the neighborhood with my railroad guess?Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Foud several in a group... Parked and hiked over to them...
You'll never guess what I found....
damn....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
That other stapler is an M2...
the SFN2 8's thru 16's
the SFN4 has a 20d magazine on it and I use it as a trim gun...
getting nails is tough...
Some of my Sencoes have been at it for 30 plus years,,,
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
where'd ya get the SHP 10 and where do I get mine?
I think they still make them ... had the pleasure of using one for a coupla weeks working along side a cabinet maker helping out on a coupla installs ...
I shoulda just stole his.
Woulda been easier.
Do you know anywhere that sells such an animal?
Never show at Ebay and few times I remember to check ....
and google/yahoo just find me pin nails that'll fit.
I have tht older "accuset" version ... which I understand from apissed off buddy is better than the new Senco version ....
neither of which are anywhere close to a real SHP 10.
is yours made in Italy? I think that's where the old one I used was made.
Jeff
Right here in town at my favorite tool vendor...
Can I help you connect some how???
They have pins galore on the shelf...
Comes cased, male nippled, extra driver... I think mine was 120$ or so...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
This one? I found it at senco.com ... under discontinued.
might explain why I couldn't find it so quick for sale ...
SHP10
Ergonomically designed and lightweight at only 2.4 lb (1kg), the SHP10 adjusts to drive any size headless pin. Its compact and maneuverable setup fits nicely in tight work areas and won't mark work surfaces. The well-balanced SHP10 is also engineered to admit low noise levels.
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View ImageSHP10TOOL SPECIFICATIONS Height: 5-13/16" (148 mm) Length: 8-5/8" (218 mm) Weight: 2.4 lb (1 kg) Width: 1-5/8" Lip Length: 1/2" (13 mm) Fastener Capacity: 200 Reg. Operating Pressure: 75—100 psig (5.2—7 bar) Collation: Glue Mode of Operation: Trigger Fire
last I saw one for sale ... it went about $300?
Jeff
You made me go out in this cold, dark, storming night (blowing snow), and open tear into my truck to look at mine....
Dat's it....
was there any thing else while I was out there... and can it wait till daylight...
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr..................
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
yeah.
email me the name/number of your dealer!
they got a website?
ok ... it can wait.
plus ... who do I ask for so I can tell them U sent me.
Thanks.
Jeff
I bought almost 3 mos ago and it was 156$ with 2 boxes of pins...
Back out to the damn truck....
You shovel this time bud...
Back in 5...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
What happenened to the shoveling detail??? You slacking....
Ya think I'd remember to put a coat or at least a shirt on in this weather...
Email on the way...
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WOW!!! What a Ride!
Jeff
48755.36 in reply to 48755.35
yeah.
email me the name/number of your dealer!
they got a website?
ok ... it can wait.
plus ... who do I ask for so I can tell them U sent me.
Thanks.
Jeff
You ever find that gun?
I am looking for one to, mine took a swan dive and will not live to shot again!
Doug
I'll just throw in my two cents about ridgid: I use their top handle jig
saw and on occasion their 18v cordless drill. They are both nice tools
but I have complaints about both and feel that other manufacturers do
better. The jig-saw has a soft start motor which seems like a bad idea
for a jig-saw; I usually pull the trigger and start cutting but I
allways forget that it takes a few seconds to get going and i start the
cut to soon causing ugly tear out, certantly my own stupidity but it
still makes me want to punch the jigsaw, also somtimes it cant seem to
hold onto the blade which is terrably annoying. The drill works but its
heavy and I dont like the balance.. Aslo I hate buying them because I
hate supporting HD
FinishProâ„¢ 10
This lightweight Micro Pinner is the perfect tool for all of your intricate finish and trim remodeling projects. The micro pins fasten the smallest of decorative trim securely and leave a nearly invisible hole — no splitting or puttying. The FinishPro 10 drives 1/2"—1" 23 gauge micro pins.
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FYI. don't know if it is anything like you wanted.
Close... No cigar...
He wants the SHP 10...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
that's the one I have ...
it's their old accuset model spray painted senco gray.
which ... from what I've been able to tell from a buddy that bought the new(er) version ... seems to still work better than the latest upgrade.
all of which ... don't compare with the old shp10.
Jeff
HD flyer in today's paper has three Senco guns for $300.
I think, a 15 gauge angle finish, a brad nailer and stapler?
Joe H
Thanks for the info. I'm already fixed for the brad nailer but the 15ga finish I could use for sure. I kinda like the PC because my CS, ROS, and 1/4 sheet sander, one cordless drill are all giving great service. But that Senco finish nailer that comes with the crown stapler for $199 at lowes looked good.......don't need the stapler now...but I'm sure once I get it I'll never understand how I lived without it, you know.
I like that Bostich 15 ga also. Choices............
Might check this out, it's a fine gun....although I may be jaded :-) FWIW, I think I paid about double that 6 or so years ago for used one.
several more to choose from, if you search SFN40
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2 SFN40s and an SLP20, I've rebuilt them, but I've abused the bejezzus out of them, it's the least I could do. Every day use for over 10 years. I'd buy exactly the same if they vaporized tonight. Don't worry, we can fix that later!
Senco's my first choice, too. My framers, roofers, and finishers are all Senco and they're reliable and tough. My newest is a coil framer....a bit on the heavy side, but no jams and the flush nailing adjustment makes it great for sheathing.
I've got some PC guns and staplers and a Makita siding nailer.. The Makita is great and the PC flooring nailer is top notch, but the other PC guns are a PITA. I have one of their coil roofing nailers and the only reasons I haven't given it to someone I hate is because most of the people I hate are too lazy to work... and it's still a backup...although, with it's tendency to jam, I could probably hand-tab in a pinch and save time and frustration.
IIRC that Bostich uses a T headed nail and a hellava wound when it sets...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Well, looks like you are getting the discussion you wanted on the Senco's.
I'll try to add something to the other side of your post - Ridgid.
I bought a Ridgid portable table saw (2400 I think) when they first came out. Really like it. After about 8 months or so - the blade had a tendency to creep down while in use - not much but enough to matter every once in a while.
One day I was in the Depot looking at the stands for that saw and a Ridgid rep started telling me what a great saw it was. I told him my complaint and he said that it had a lifetime warrenty and that I should just trade it in. Explained to him that it was almost a year old and well used, and that actually I think I would prefer a different brand.
He said I could bring it in and get my money back no questions asked. I went out to my van and brought it in covered in dust. They gave me $500 some odd dollars on the spot.
Went and looked at the Bosch 4000 and the DeWalt - decided to just get another Ridgid. Bought a slightly used one on clearance for about $350 and have been happy with it for the last three years or so. Does get hard to raise the blade after a lot of use and no cleaning - other than that, no real complaints. Fence seems very good.
I really like the Ridgid table saw stand and the Ridgid miter saw stand.
Also have a Ridgid portable thickness planer that seems to be pretty good - don't use it much though.
Come to think of it - I also bought the Ridgid 4 piece cordless set about a year ago. Drill is very good - though a bit heavy. Recip saw is alright but I really don't like the safety on it. Circular saw is good and the flashlight, well it's a flashlight. Like the idea that you can charge two batteries at the same time. Hate the fan running on the charger all the time. All in all, I would say it is a pretty good set.
Don't use the cordless set much anymore, as I have several Panasonic 12 volt drills and their 12 volt impact driver, and have switched to the Bosch 18 volt for most everything else - jig saw, circular saw, recip saw, flashlight, 1/2" hammer drill, and planer.
Might be a long post, but, there - you now have some spew on Ridgid. I think it might be some allright stuff.
I've got a stable of Senco's, all older stuff.
Don't like the looks of the new stuff.
Think the gun he's talking about is probably a SFN 35, an oiler, up to 2 1/2"
Picked one up at Lowe's and didn't like the heft of it. Grip too small, and the padding looked like it would wear off in the first day.
I don't buy tools from the boxes unless it is something I already know what it is and it is really discounted.
Got a Porter Cable CS from HD one time for $30.
Our company has both Accuset (Senco) and Bostitch 15 ga nailers. I like the Accuset better - feels better in the hand and better balanced, and it has also been more durable than the Bostitch, which has had to have magazine leaf spring replaced because it was no longer feeding a nail every shot. This is a company with 15-20 jobsites and upwards of 250 employees. The tools are handled out of an in-house central rental centre and the abuse they receive is on an eye-popping level. We should be a test site for tool manufacturers. Anything that survives very long at Greyback is tough gear. So despite it being the 'budget' line for Senco, the Accuset is tough enough.
Wally
sly
We should be a test site for tool manufacturers.
I was thinking the same thing.
We have some 8 or 10 Accuset guns in our shop(a lot smaller shop than yours) I wouldn't give you a Canadian quarter for all of them.
Our un-skilled laborers are very hard on the tools, when you cant get something to work, beat it with a hammer. Of coarse that's the same philosophy they use on everything. Its probably not fair for me to evaluate the tool.
Doug
Its probably not fair for me to evaluate the tool.
Not fair, hell. Tools can either stand some abuse or they can't. Tools do perform better when looked after but the reality is that a lot of the time the guy who owns the tool isn't the one using the tool. And when we send tools back and forth to many jobsites, the disconnection of responsibility is even more complete. On the whole, our company treats tools like hell. The same circumstances apply to most other similarly sized or larger contractors, so I'm sure their corporate mentality is the same too. Our tool #### mostly buys high quality stuff because it is generally stronger. But occasionally on items like 15 ga nailer he thinks won't get used as much (we are general contractors but do predominantly concrete), he will try to save a buck. All I'm saying is the Accuset gun has so far proven more durable than the Bostitch and both have been subjected to rough handling. Maybe our Accuset was made on a Tuesday afternoon just after a pay raise was announced...
WallyLignum est bonum.
Well, guys,Thanks for all the help on this. I went to Lowes today intending to get the Senco and they were out. But, good news is that the price had been reduced from $199 to $159 for the Senco FinishPro35 15ga finish nailer and it still came with the 18ga narrow crown stapler. They said they have 10 coming in any day.
Couldn't find a 35 listed on their site...
Something made fer Lowes???
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WOW!!! What a Ride!
FinishProâ„¢ 35
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This is from their site and it looks like the same one on display and same model, etc.
Since they were out I didn't get a look at the stapler. But I figure this one should be worth $159, the stapler they told me came with it is the SLS18. Seems like a deal. We'll see.
This one???
View ImageSLS18TOOL SPECIFICATIONS Power (in/lbs): 168 Height: 9" (228.6 mm) Length: 10" (254 mm) Weight: 2.9 lb (1.3 kg) Lip Length: 3/4" (19 mm) Fastener Capacity: 110 Reg. Operating Pressure: 70—120 psig (4.8—8.3 bar) Mode of Operation: Available with either Dual Action or Restrictive Trigger activating mechanisms
Looks a lot like the SKS series...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
according to what they said, that should be it. Any good? I don't really have an immediate use for it but once I get something I can always find a use for it.
The SKS series is a bullet proof work horse.....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
My real interest is the 15ga finish nailer. I need to put up some plywood in my building and some beadboard in a hallway of a house I have.
I also bought a little shack eariler in the year that I will do some work on over time so it should come in handy.
Thought that stapler might come in handy reinforcing some joints on some wooden window screens if I decide I have to build 'em. Wanted to just get 'em done, but haven't found anybody wants to make wooden window screen frames.
I can epoxy repair most of the old ones but some are just completely missing. I've got some in real good shape so just copying them.
May just have to make 'em. That'll be an excuse to buy something else anyway.
You gonna nail up plywood with a finish nailer????
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
1/4 inch, why not? inside.
how thick??
wall, floor or cieling????
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
1/4, finished, on the wall.
Go for it...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
now, ya got me second guessing myself....what should I be using?
Be destrictive...
How thick, what kind, on what, which kind of fastener, where, style and anything else you got to offer..........
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
just 1/4" on the wall, 15ga finish nails, in my shop building
PL and counter angle drive the pins...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
at 160$ i suspect that they're not production models...
but who knows...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Found it...
Adjustable depth-of-drive
Adjustable exhaust
Full soft grip — For comfort and control
Available in dual action or restrictive fire
Includes case, fitting, oil, and fastener rebate
this much different from my 40
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!