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   calvin | Dec 17, 2010 06:08pm | #1

   And you'll get the same here............

   Man, this question is asked and the usual answers given.  And that's a good thing. 

   You 'll get some here and when I come back from my neighbors (the wolff's with two f's) I might join in.

   Best of luck. 

   And know this-either way, you'll never be completely right nor wrong in this one. 

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   Scott | Dec 17, 2010 06:15pm | #2

   Like Cal says... it can go either way. This question pops up every month or two.

   If the cabs are in, fastened, stable, and being used, you probably don't want to rip them out do you?

   If it's a brand new kitchen without cabs, or if you're going to change the cabs, then you could tile underneath once they are gone.

   It can be done either way.

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   [email protected] | Dec 17, 2010 06:34pm | #3

   I prefer that the flooring extend under the dishwasher at least

   I once had to take off a 12-ft counter top, with the sink in it, and the back splash with it, to replace a dishwasher because the recently installed tile on backer board floor had made a 3/4-inch lip that the dishwasher cound not be lifted over without removing counter top.  I now have a very strong opinion on this.  One of those go help out a buddy on Saturday morning projects, that ate two weekends.

   The dishwasher had adjustable feet that were most of the way out, and we would have had enough room to get it out if we could have lowered them.  But, we couldn't get to them with out getting the dishwasher out.  When the dishwasher is on a flat floor, you can just get in there with a wrench.  But, with the lip in the way, there was no way to get the wrench on the adjuster.  One of those law of unforseen consequences things. 

   I am now a big fan of any flooring extending at least under the dishwasher. 

   When I was building tract homes, it was dependant on the type of flooring to be installed.  Sheet vinyl was installed after the cabinets were in.  Because it was easy to damage, and impossible to repair.  Tile and hardwood floors went in first.  Because, they are more durable, and could be repaired if the cabinet guy dinged them. 

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   DanH | Dec 17, 2010 10:59pm | #6

   Our new(ish) Bosch has rear

   Our new(ish) Bosch DW has rear legs that can be adjusted from the front.

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   glacierfergus | Dec 17, 2010 07:24pm | #4

   Are you getting new cabinets?

   You say you are remodeling... If you are putting in new cabinets, I would go under the cabinets. If not, I fully agree with the above statement that you should go under the dishwasher at the very least. This might require that you raise the level of the countertops if the dishwasher won't fit with the aditional floor height.. 

   If your tile is very expensive, you wouldn't have to actually tile under the cabinets.  You could use plywood to raise the level of the cabinets to the level of the floor.  Personally, I prefer to tile under the cabinets, but if someone is putting in $15 per square foot tiles, it can get expensive for something that will be hidden under the cabinets.  Tiling right under the cabinets means that you can install all the tile and not have as many cuts to worry about, and your cuts against the wall will be covered, so if they aren't perfect it doesn't matter as much.

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   calvin | Dec 17, 2010 09:34pm | #5

   Alright........

   the beer was cold at the Wolffs.

   Whatever way you decide, know (mark it out) the layout of the cabinets.  If you are tempted to tile b/4 setting cabs, layout the cabinets on the floor.  Nothing worse than a grout line running wrong with a cabinet toe kick.  Easy to do when the room os a bit off and you just go with measure off this wall.................

   Sometimes a cabinet footprint dictates the tile layout, rather than the room.

   And once it's down.........

   it's done.

6. 
   mwgaines | Dec 18, 2010 09:47am | #7

   I once asked this same question. Among the many responses I received at the time, I liked this suggestion best:

   If base cabs are not already installed, fur them all to a height approximately equal to the thickness of material(s) that will make up the finished flooring around them. This applies ONLY to fixed cabinetry. The areas under the dishwasher, refrigerator, compactor, etc. would include finished flooring. Factor the adjusted height into the upper cabinet placement as well.

   This allows for easier installation and/or removal of cabinets, flooring and appliances. I do my own work in most cases, and if something needs attention later, I'm usually the one who has to tackle it. So, future access is always important to me.

   Also bear in mind that the symmetry of the tile pattern can be noticeably disrupted by the cabinet layout. For this reason, and the reasons cited above, I plan to tile "to" my cabinets and not under them.

   My two-cents worth,

   Michael

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   Hill Jeffrey | Sep 09, 2016 06:24am | #8

   It'll definitely look better if you use good textures and colors. you should fit the tiles under the cabinet !