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Shower ceiling finish

Jenka | Posted in Construction Techniques on March 26, 2006 03:01am

Hello to all!

I am kind of new to this.

Does anybody know of any ideas on how to finish celing in tiled in shower? Can I glue tiles with thinset I have never tiled ceiling is it dificult? Should I just texture it with drywall mud? I hve durarock on that celing and shower is 32″ by 42″. Celing height is about 7 feet.

Any help on this would be highly appreciated.

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  1. plumbbill | Mar 26, 2006 03:46am | #1

    Welcome to Break Time ( bt )

    If you have tiled walls before doing ceilings is really no different.

    Since you have durorock up there someone was thinking about putting tile up there anyways.

    Regular thinset or tile mastic works just fine.

    My tub/shower was built with denseshield¯ so I used tile mastic & had no problems at all.

    Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

  2. FastEddie | Mar 26, 2006 03:59am | #2

    If you use tiles that are about 6" or smaller it's very easy.  Larger tiles work too, but usually you need to temporarily support them until the thinset dries a bit.

    Just mix a good batch of thinset and start sticking tiles to the ceiling.  Do the ceiling before the walls so the cut edges are covered.  The hardest part is grouting.  It's relly no different than grouting a wall or floor, except that your arms will get tired, and grout will fall into your mouth wjhile you're looking up.

     

     

    "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

  3. andybuildz | Mar 26, 2006 04:38am | #3

    As has been said mastic works fine on smallish tiles. When you get into 12" tiles come back here and I'll tell you the method I've used thats easy and flawless with thinset. To me thinset has the ultimate holding power but on smallish tiles mastic is fine.

    If Blodgett says, Tipi tipi tipi it must be so!

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    1. FastEddie | Mar 26, 2006 07:14am | #7

      Andy, are you proposing to use mastic (not thinset) inside a shower enclosure?   And on the ceiling no less, where the condensation will form first?

        

      "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

      1. plumbbill | Mar 26, 2006 07:19am | #8

        That's what the guys are using on my job for the smaller tiles anyways.

        Walls are 12 x 12 & their using mastic, I say mastic cause it's not thinset I'm not sure of the brand--- looks like a 3 gallon bucket white paste consistancy of creamy peanut butter.

        Then again they are using dense shield not durorock.Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

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          IMERC | Mar 26, 2006 07:22am | #9

          people still using Durorock????Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

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          JeffBuck | Mar 26, 2006 10:59am | #10

          I don't fight about it anymore ...

           

          but alot of people do things wrong ...

          and alot of people say mastic is fine for showers ... and smaller tiles.

           

          Me ... I don't use mastic in a wet location ...

           

          don't care about tile size ...

          or backer board makes.

           

          I know how to mix thinset ... it's not that hard to master a drill.

           

          btw ... mapei's UltraLite has great initial stick .. so m no more excuses about mastic for small tiles ...

          Jeff

               Buck Construction

           Artistry In Carpentry

               Pittsburgh Pa

  4. andybuildz | Mar 26, 2006 04:44am | #4

    One other thing.. I've always gone on the diagonal for the ceilings. The diagonal has more cuts but theres not much you have to line up with and IMO looks better...just a matter of taste I spose'. Just snap your lines and start in the middle. End with a bullnose/trim tile unless you're ending at ####ceiling door track or the like.

    If Blodgett says, Tipi tipi tipi it must be so!

    TipiFest 06~~> Send me your email addy for a Paypal invoice to the greatest show on earth~~>[email protected]

    1. plumbbill | Mar 26, 2006 07:08am | #6

      I 100% agree with ya on diagnol ceiling tiles.

      Hard to get all 4 sides of grout lines to match up & we all know about non mythical square corners in a house.Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

  5. WayneL5 | Mar 26, 2006 06:33am | #5

    Tile is fine but I would hate to have textured drywall ceiling in any bathroom I owned.  It would make it impossible to clean it properly -- the texture would hold dirt and mold.

  6. traini | Mar 26, 2006 03:33pm | #11

     #1- Leave the ceiling alone a good drywall ceiling with a semigloss paint works fine as long as the room has a good fan to reduce humidity as any shower should.

    #2 if the tiles are large and need support it is done by using two 2x4 on either side for veritcal support with a 2x4 on horizontal, use cedar shims to wedge up.

    George

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    Mongo | Mar 26, 2006 07:36pm | #12

    C'mon guys...quit using mastic in wet areas.

    And if you want to use it, at least quit recommending it to others.

    For ceilings, try using a modified thinset, as it has a bit more tack or grip than dryset.

    No need to comb the ceiling, you can set your layout lines then backbutter each tile and smoosh it in place. Push it up with a slight twist. I've never had one fall, shift, or droop.

    The only thing that should be used to adhere tile in a wet area is portland-based thinset. That's a dry powder that you add water (and possibly an admix if you bought dry set). Do not use anything that comes in a sealable bucket or tub and that is premixed.

    Same with that pre-mixed grout crap they're selling at HD.

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    Dinosaur | Mar 26, 2006 11:28pm | #13

    Hello, Jenka. Welcome to BT.

    You've inadvertantly pushed one of the traditional argument buttons here (ie: mastic vs thinset for tiling showers & other wet areas). The fact is, most of us have used mastic at one time or another--and maybe gotten away with it, too--but it really isn't the best way to do things.

    In any event, that argument is about any tile in a wet area, not just the ceiling.

    But let me try a different  tack. My suggestion for the ceiling in your shower is wood. A ceiling of T&G red cedar goes up quickly and easily; it is essentially rot-proof in its natural state; and the only finish it needs is an oil finish (to keep the cedar aromatics from gassing you out of the shower when the wood gets wet). I prefer teak oil, as it is easy to work with, matures nicely, and after the initial coats (once a day for a week, once a week for a month), you just wipe on a coat once a year when you're doing your spring cleaning.

    It will never peel, rot, or mildew, and it will add a nice warmth of colour and texture to what is usually otherwise a pretty cold and hard box.

    Dinosaur

    How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not brought
    low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
    foolish men call Justice....

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