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shower pans

Lawrence | Posted in Construction Techniques on July 8, 2008 07:12am

I just priced a pan using the new membrane products and they look much like tyvek.

Would you pay $350 for a 5×5 piece of fibreglass cloth?

What are you pro tile guys using?

(the old builder in our place used old insulation bags…. that didn’t work too well).

 

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  1. Jim_Allen | Jul 08, 2008 07:41pm | #1

    That sounds crazy to me.

    I was kicking around the John Bridges forum and they had a thread about Kerdi. It seems like all the proponents of Kerdi were shocked to find out that the warranty was only five years!

    Whats the warranty on your $14 per sq ft material?

    Bob's next test date: 12/10/07

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      Lawrence | Jul 08, 2008 08:14pm | #2

      If there is a warranty--is only on materials and likely 1 year. Not going to pay for the travertine replacement.

      I am thinking Ice and Water Shield, torch down roofing... or that new roofing that comes in 12' rolls for low slope.

      It will have a slab over it...so long as it sheds moisture it will work. 18" slabs that are grouted are not going to leak much.

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      1. Jim_Allen | Jul 08, 2008 10:00pm | #3

        Are we talking about a shower or a roof LOL?I'm getting a shower pan installed right now. I guess they are big on fiberglass pans here in Austin. And it's going to cost me 350 or so for the installation. I guess they haven't heard of the Oatey membranes here. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07

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          Lawrence | Jul 08, 2008 11:31pm | #4

          Same concept as a roof right?  just a slab of concrete held within...

          So, that is the cost there for a shower pan--installed? $350...   And I pay that for a sheet of fiberglass vapor barrier up here!??!?

          Hmmm, I hear you guys are paying $4.00 a gallon down there now.

          Did I mention that we were paying that a year ago?  $6.31 per gallon in Ontario right now... WTF

          I hear a rant coming on!

          LGardenStructure.com~Build for the Art of it! Decks Blog

          1. Jim_Allen | Jul 09, 2008 03:17am | #5

            Yeah but you have free health care...Back in MI, we did oatey membranes. Never heard of one leaking. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07

  2. Shep | Jul 09, 2008 04:11am | #6

    I'm not a pro tile guy, but U have done many bathroom showers. I've seen either the rubber membrane, or fiberglass.

    The fiberglass seeems to be gaining popularity around here.

     I wouldn't experiment much with unproven materials. It would really bite to have to rip everything apart in a year or two.

    And water CAN seep thru a well- grouted floor. The cement's not water tight. That's what the pan is for.

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    JeffBuck | Jul 09, 2008 04:12am | #7

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    1. BungalowJeff | Jul 09, 2008 03:15pm | #8

      What, no one uses lead pans anymore?...that's not a mistake, it's rustic

      1. Shep | Jul 09, 2008 03:19pm | #9

        Have you priced lead recently?

        1. BungalowJeff | Jul 10, 2008 03:43pm | #10

          Not me. My brother is a plumber in good old NYC and he is as old school as it gets. I razz him about the pre-soldered and sharkbite fittings and PEX. 

          He did put down a lead pan in my upstairs shower a few years ago. Even had CI shipped from his supplier to my house in Essex County, NJ so I did not have to listen to the toilet and shower. He did use fernco's and no-hub instead of lead and oakum, so there is hope for him....that's not a mistake, it's rustic

          1. Shep | Jul 10, 2008 03:52pm | #11

            The problem I've seen with lead pans is that unless they're coated with tar, or something, the alkali in the cement will eat thru them.

            I've had to replace a number of lead pans because of that. That's something the rubber and fiberglass pans aren't affected by.

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