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   IMERC | Sep 19, 2007 06:53pm | #1

   is that penitration after the sheathing???

   you very well could

    

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   WOW!!! What a Ride!
   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   bobtim | Sep 19, 2007 07:09pm | #2

   2x4 or  2x6 framing?

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   rickjl | Sep 19, 2007 11:09pm | #6

   For some reason it is 2x4 on the sides and 2x6 front and back.

   The nails will penetrate the stud that far.

   Since the filter removes the cra* word darn it!

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   BillBrennen | Sep 19, 2007 08:43pm | #3

   Rick,

   If you go more than 1-1/4" into the framing with your nails and hit a wire or pipe, the repair is on you. Less than that and the electrician/plumber is on the hook, unless he nail-plated it properly and you nailed through his plate. Then it would belong to you.

   The reason is that the codes require pipes/wires to be at least 1-1/4" back from the stud face, or that they be nail plated.

   Bill

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   CAGIV | Sep 19, 2007 09:39pm | #4

   good luck finding the electrical or plumbing company and getting them to except liability though.

   New-work definitely, remodel, it's all on you

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   BillBrennen | Sep 19, 2007 09:48pm | #5

   Good point. I was only thinking new work when I posted.

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   JDRHI | Sep 19, 2007 11:45pm | #7

   I was thinkin' the exact same thing.

   I'd bet it would be pretty hard to get a plumber/electrician back, even on new construction.

   Not that they shouldn't be held responsible......but I'm betting there will be a whole lotta unreturned phone calls.

   J. D. ReynoldsHome Improvements

    

    

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   CAGIV | Sep 20, 2007 03:13am | #9

   depends on who you work with I guess, I know mine would come back and it's not because I'm some big bad asz, we just have a good relationship and situations like that are the reason we're willing to pay a little more then some of their competitors.

   If I can't trust the people I work to take care of me, and make good on their own mistakes, I find new people.

    

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   JDRHI | Sep 20, 2007 04:32am | #10

   Oh no....without a doubt.....my subs would be there as well.

   I'd be shocked as hell to find out one of 'em had drilled so close to the stud edge, and I'm equally sure that they would come back if only just to see it for themselves. I know they wouldn't believe me over the phone.

   But they would certainly take care of it.

   Truth be told, I doubt they'd charge me for the repair even if it were me who screwed up.

   I was speaking more in general. Most HOs or DIYs would likely be up the crick w/out the paddle.

   J. D. ReynoldsHome Improvements

    

    

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   CAGIV | Sep 20, 2007 04:44am | #11

   most h/o's and DIY's would probably blame either the guy who did or theirselves and not belive it was someone elses fault.

   I love my sub-contractors... they take good care of me.

    

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   Sphere | Sep 20, 2007 01:22am | #8

   Good points, but in 30 yrs of being around building, I have never seen a nail plate on an EXT face of a stud.  Usually the Ele is in well after the sheathing is on (G).Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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