I built log sided house in semi-arid Colorado 6 years ago.
Many of the nails used to attach the siding have backed out of the siding, some up to an inch or even two out! With our dry climate shrinking the wood and the wind shaking the house each winter I am not surprised.
I will be re-staining the house this summer and want to address this when I have the ladders and scaffold up. If I simply pound these nails back in a suspect they will just work their way back out again. I could pull them and re-nail in another spot but am afraid I will have the same problem and will have all those holes to fill. I could replace the popped nails with screws I guess or pull the loose ones and apply adhesive before re-nailing but wanted to ask for some colleagues to make some suggestions first. The nails are gun nails, 16d I think. Any ideas? Thanks in advance – Rick Wilking
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Try 2-1/2" Ring shank siding nails, preferably SS
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16D's for siding. Holy Moly. The siding musta been so scared they got shook out.
The usual advice would be to bump up one size in the diameter of nail you're using and try ring-shank or screw-shank. 6D to 8D or something like that. But I can't see pounding 20D galvy ringshanks into the exterior of a house. What kinda siding you got?
Pounding the existing nails back in or replacing them in the same hole with the same diameter nail will just serve to aggravate you again in another 6 years. And I think I'd rather have a colonoscopy than sqeeze adhesive on each nail shank before pounding them home.
I just had a colonoscopy a couple days ago. You seem kind of young for one, but I can tell you for a fact, that you can forget it faster tahn you can forget renailing a whole house with 20d nails.Imerc has aa story about some rather large nails at my house, BTW
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He's got that d shaped shiplapped log siding I bet..at it's fattest it can be 1 and 5 eighths thick, but should be nailed below center so the nals don't see direct weather on the heads.
If ya nail it above center and sink em, water can pool on the head recess. And ya can't just blind nail the shiplap, the bottom WILL pull away. BTDT on a 3000sq.ft logstrosity in NC. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
The Morphine s eems to do no good at all..I'd run all the way if I would not fall...
you are exactly right on the type of siding and its nailed top and bottom both - have to look and see which nails have popped
Mine is nailed with 8d top and bottom, since about '96 and anry a one has pulled out. 'course, it never occoured to me to use a gun and miss the studs...
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You just didn't try hard enuf to miss the studs..LOL
Seems ya give some folks a nailgun and suddenly nails are free..the more the better. I know when hand nailing that siding ( or anything for that matter) yer sure they count as bulls-eyes, cause anything else is gonna be a problem.
I guess noone mentioned he could figgure wher the solid is, and angle a longer nail to hit "home" in the same divot.?
I shoulda said something earlier but we been slappin down copper on a 10/12 and it is hot and hotter. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
The Morphine s eems to do no good at all..I'd run all the way if I would not fall...
memories of hot days are but a distant memory to me now. We saw the sun shine some today for the first time in...can't remember.All four pairs of shoes and boots are soaked, I'm running out of athlete's foot powder...yeah, there were lots of days all I could handle for lunch was a liter of 7Up and an apple. Used up a two gallon jug of iced tea every day by three. But I was so slim and svelte!
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Yup..svelte..LOL.
I don't know how I morphed into a copper roofer, I musta been sleeping..but I love it.
Might as well do it while I still can..I'll give it a few yrs and see if I live thru it.
G is such a great guy to work with..I mean it. I know y'all met.
Pee in the shower, keeps athletes foot at bay..LOL Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
The Morphine s eems to do no good at all..I'd run all the way if I would not fall...
yeah, like I ain't got enough to do in the shower already!
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MAjor Snork...LMAO.
Caution "roofer hands are roofer than thay appear"...
I hate them copper splinters Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
The Morphine s eems to do no good at all..I'd run all the way if I would not fall...
Gettin up at 0430..callin it a nite.
I love ya Paul..I hope the weather and redtide gets on with it, and outta yer hair. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
The Morphine s eems to do no good at all..I'd run all the way if I would not fall...
early me too. That's one way to beat the heat.
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I never like to gun nail siding, its ugly and you dont know what you are nailing to. I guess that your siding is nailed to osb and did not hit studs. I have never seen nails work out 1 to 2 inches out. But anyway I would remove those nails because they arnt holding any thing. And a gun nail will rust alot quicker then a hand drive. If you can find the stud pattern I would use a 2 1/2" gal. small head siding nail and renail into studs with two nails per stud. Just nail in flush and dont countersink to aviod water problems. I have done lots of log siding homes in Tenneessee and have not have any problems, none like yours.
I'm sure we're not into studs and the OSB is not holding - what do you think of the other guys suggesting ring shanks - might not be studs in some places these nails are popped