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Simple Sash

Sphere | Posted in Construction Techniques on August 21, 2008 01:45am

I know every one can’t use a shaper or router to make up simple DH sash from scratch, so I thought I’d show a simple way that avoids all the cope cuts.

I make up the frame to size and biscut the butt joints and TB3 otr similar glue. Plenty strong for average size sash.  I then rip or plane 1/4″ thick muntin and mullions , half lapped at the cross, and let into the frame 1/4″.

Mill the internal stop ( any profile can be made, this one happens to be a flat bevel @ 12 degrees) from a suitable clear wood, poplar in this case. 5 passes on the table saw to get 2 lengths of profiled stop, on edge, one pass on each face at 12* and then set the fence to 1/4” and while on edge still, rip out the center waste of about 1/4″ ( a dado would work, but I do it all with one blade), then lay the board flat and set the fennce at 5/8″ ( this varies with frame thickness and glass thickness) and rip off the two stops..use a push stick.

Ok I fess up, to save time, I mill a BUNCH at once and use 3 table saws,one for 12*, one for the center waste, and one for the final width..I’m lazy and changing fence and blade heights is tedious..LOL I also do BOTH edges of a wide board, to get as many pcs as I can safely.

Miter the stops and small bead of glue, and then pin with a 3/8th” 23 ga. pins.

 

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 Thats that side.

 

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Now take a hunk of azek that is 3/4″ thick, rip it t 5/8″, set a table or band saw at 30* and with the 5/8th thickness up and down, rip off a triangle from 1/4″ ( the glass rabbet created) to zero..you get two as well by swapping end for end ( I have started using the bandsaw for this , it is less likely to get chewed by the blade if it flops into it inadvertantly).

Here is the finished cross section of a mullion.View Image

 

 

The glass is bedded in a bead of Big Stretch caulk, and the back of the azek gets a slight bead as well, SS, pins for attaching.

Once painted, these azek stops far surpass putty for many reasons, it wont crack, and can be pried out much easier to replace a pane of glass.

Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

 

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    Sphere | Aug 21, 2008 02:25pm | #1

    A bump, cuz you asked a ways back about it..

    Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

    Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

     

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    McDesign | Aug 21, 2008 05:17pm | #2

    Nice - I 've saved the info to copy it later, and claim credit.

    Forrest - used to be a builder oncet

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      Sphere | Aug 21, 2008 05:26pm | #3

      On the back of every azek strip I write 'Patent applied for" so, I'm covered (G).Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

       

      1. stevent1 | Aug 21, 2008 07:15pm | #4

        D,Thanx for sharing that. Looks good.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

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          Sphere | Aug 21, 2008 07:42pm | #5

          Thanks Chuck, like I said, it's a simple way to go, not traditional at all, but for this one job, it's in the $$$ range they can handle.

          Seeing some guy ( in my mind) replacing a broken pane years down the road, saying 'What the...?" when he tries to un-putty it..LOL.

          Once painted, you can't tell it's not putty, except for the fact that it is so even and no cracks from shrinking.

          I also like the fact that I can make a window before lunch.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

           

  3. MikeSmith | Sep 23, 2008 01:18am | #6

    heh,heh,heh......you said mullion

    Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
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      Sphere | Sep 23, 2008 01:31am | #7

      Hey, I was thinkin of you today..I may need a 4x8 of azek..3/4 or 1" dunno...gotta ballpark price?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

       

      They kill Prophets, for Profits.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj_oEx4-Mc4

       

      The world of people goes up and

      down and people go up and down with

      their world; warriors have no business

      following the ups and downs of their

      fellow men.

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        MarkH | Sep 23, 2008 04:05am | #8

        4'x8' - 400-500 buckaroos. Unless you need a 4" x 8" piece, $3.

      2. MikeSmith | Sep 23, 2008 04:16am | #9

        i'll look it up tomorrow.....   i was  thinking  $180  for the 5/4

        Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

        Edited 9/22/2008 9:17 pm ET by MikeSmith

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          Sphere | Sep 23, 2008 04:28am | #10

          Thanks, I'll call our yard in the morning if I rememeber. That was EXACTLY my WAG! Cool.

          Hanging alarm, teleco, and other devices in a damp basement, stone wall, wanna go steel studs and AZEK back board..for NO MOLD.

          Can't thinkof anything more suitable.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

           

          They kill Prophets, for Profits.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj_oEx4-Mc4

           

          The world of people goes up and

          down and people go up and down with

          their world; warriors have no business

          following the ups and downs of their

          fellow men.

      3. WINSTALL | Sep 23, 2008 04:56pm | #11

        3/4" - 4 X 8 AZEK FOB LOUISVILLE...... $184.50 + TAX
        1" - 4 X8 " " " $227.65 + TAX
        ORDER TIME IS ONE WEEK OR LESS......As long as GOD makes "bad builders" and rich people... I will have a job

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          Sphere | Sep 24, 2008 01:30am | #12

          Thank ya, thank ya..

          You still have that glass? I lost your email addy.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

           

          They kill Prophets, for Profits.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj_oEx4-Mc4

           

          The world of people goes up and

          down and people go up and down with

          their world; warriors have no business

          following the ups and downs of their

          fellow men.

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