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   toast953 | Dec 04, 2003 08:00am | #1

   100 % clear silicone

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   andybuildz | Dec 04, 2003 08:14am | #2

   I've installed incredably heavy soap dishes that were 2' high using thinset with an additive rather than water. Always holds great. I use duct tape and a stick over night to keep it in place.

   I've also used just mastic buttered to the dish and the wall....Holds great too...hmmm, Maybe you didnt mix it up well enough???? Sounds odd.

   Was the back of the dish very chalky?

   Be well mixed

                 andy

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   Mongo | Dec 04, 2003 09:34am | #3

   I use plaster. Big dollop. Place the fixture, press evenly, clean up the squeeze out, tape for the helluvit.

   Back of your dish could have been dirtyy as Andy mentiuoned. 'Mortar' coud have been a bit dry or had nothing to get a tooth on.

   Never had plaster fail, and I don't ever want to try to pull one off the wall.

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   MG911 | Dec 04, 2003 10:11am | #4

   Just a thought on this as I put in 1 soap dish and 2 corner shelves when I did my tub recently with no problems using the white mortar.  Were there by any chance 2 holes in the back of the soap dish?  I know that those 2 holes are not to be covered over with mortar when attaching them. Apparently these are for expansion from the use of hot water and should not be covered  or they will continue to pop off.  Anyone else have experience with this or am I totally out to lunch?

   Mike

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   wrick2003 | Dec 04, 2003 03:49pm | #7

        I was told by an old timer that those holes are there to give the dollup of plaster more purchase. Like a wall anchor.

        rg 

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   fredsmart48 | Dec 04, 2003 11:22am | #5

   ((White mortared my ceramic soap dish in when I did all my tubs, One of them fell yesterday.  First off,...why did it fall?))

   The usual reason I suspect.   

    

    

    

    

    

    (       gravity )   (:

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   SteveInCleveland | Dec 04, 2003 03:17pm | #6

   If the soap fell too, be careful who's around if you bend over to pick it up. ;)

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   wrick2003 | Dec 04, 2003 03:52pm | #8

         100% silicon, with shots of hot melt glue at the corners. The hot melt cools and acts as a clamp to hold the fixture until the silicon cures.

        I use this method for all kinds of things that shouldn't fall off the wall.

        rg

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   mitch | Dec 04, 2003 07:26pm | #9

   shouldn't your handle be "fredsmarta$$"?  (yeah, i laughed anyway)

   m

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   Scooter1 | Dec 04, 2003 08:08pm | #10

   Just thinset. Press the dish in firmly but leave some thinset between it and the backerboard. Use masking tape to hold it fast overnight. Grout. You can also use silicone caulk. I prefer the former.

   Regards,

   Boris

   "Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934

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   MojoMan | Dec 05, 2003 12:40am | #11

   When you examine the dish and its hole in the wall, where did the mortar stick, and where did it fail? That should provide a clue as to where to focus your attention.

   Al Mollitor, Sharon MA

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   UncleDunc | Dec 05, 2003 12:53am | #12

   I don't understand your question. It all failed. If any of it was still sticking, the soap dish wouldn't have fallen.

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   MojoMan | Dec 05, 2003 01:09am | #13

   So...the mortar didn't stick to the dish or the backerboard (or whatever your substrate is)? Sounds like it might have been a bad batch of mortar.

   Al Mollitor, Sharon MA