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   MSA1 | May 03, 2006 05:10am | #1

   Never tried them. IMO they're not worth the price. The other thing to remember is that you need to add more than heat. You will still need to clean and flux.

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   BungalowJeff | May 03, 2006 03:35pm | #2

   I used an end cap in a hard to reach spot during a bathroom remodel. Not worth the extra cost and minimal time savings for ordinary situations. If I were to go away from the tried and true, I would probably go all the way to pex lines.

   ...that's not a mistake, it's rustic

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   JohnSprung | May 04, 2006 01:53am | #3

   Regular soldering is plenty easy enough.  All it takes is a little practice. 

    

    

   -- J.S.

    

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   NickNukeEm | May 04, 2006 02:30am | #4

   I had several freeze repairs to do in a limited access location that prevented me from getting both hands near the pipe.  Fluxed an easy solder coupling and pipe, slipped the coupling on and applied heat.  Held fine.  I wouldn't make a habit of them, however; too expensive.  But I have a number of each type of fittings 'just in case.'

    

   "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."  Invictus, by Henley.

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   sungod | May 04, 2006 05:46pm | #5

   Those who had problems with soldering go back to the days of using a soldering iron---a soldering iron or gun won't work on water pipe. A torch is a must, get the one with a built in ignighter.
   Soldering water pipe with ANY water won't work! If you see steam, there is water, the joint may leak. Get a wet and dry vac, open another faucet and suck all the water out.
   If you want pre-soldered pipe, just solder a fitting to a pipe, then pull it out hot. The pipe you pull out from the fitting should be evenly covered with solder, if not, you did not clean and flux properly. A pre-tined pipe will overcome wet situations.