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Source for 3D CAD files

789456123 | Posted in General Discussion on January 29, 2008 05:17am

Hi

I am designing a large entertainment center / bookcase. My client wants fluted pilasters, iconic capitals and detil cornice with rope. I use Google SketchUp. Does anyone know a molding company that provides 3D drawings of their moldings? There are plenty of companies that provide 2D drawings; but have you ever tried to take a 2D drawing of an iconic capital and convert it to 3D; painful! So it would be a real time saver to get actual 3D files of these elements to insert into the SketchUp file.

Thanks
Paul Chek
Heritage Home Restoration

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    ToolFreakBlue | Jan 29, 2008 05:36am | #1

    Have you tried the Sketchup 3D Warehouse. Try different search words and see what you get. I think you can explode the models and use specific elements you need.

    TFB (Bill)
    1. 789456123 | Jan 29, 2008 05:56am | #3

      Thanks. The 3D warehouse is good but; what I am looking for is a drawing of an actual molding that I can buy. I am not set up to mill iconic capitals and fluted columns.

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    ToolFreakBlue | Jan 29, 2008 05:41am | #2

    To answer you question,

    No. I do not know of any moulding co. with 3D drawings.

    I'll be watching though because that would be nice.

    TFB (Bill)
  3. Piffin | Jan 29, 2008 07:13am | #4

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dxf+%2B+CAD+%2B+molding&btnG=Google+Search

    My memory is that Fypon has 3D symbols that would help you if SU can handle DXF files

     

     

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  4. john7g | Jan 29, 2008 02:11pm | #5

    The problem with rope & dentil moulds in SU is that you'd have to make the whole stick.  (not that bad of a dela once you're done since you'll be able to use it again in the future.)  I don't think SU will do repeating patterns (rope & dentil) on a crossection that you've pulled to length.  You could make you're own fill pattern for the rope but it won't have any depth to it, just an image pasted on the surface of the piece.

    For making 3ds from 2ds have you tried importing a jpg of the item and tracing?  I've done most of the Randall Bros moulding catalogue with reasonably good results. Save the traces as componets with their proper names so that info carries over to ever model you use it in.  There are a few scale errors but it's close enough to get the image across to clients.

     

    1. 789456123 | Jan 29, 2008 05:40pm | #6

      Here is what I have found so far.Osborne Wood has 3D drawings for many of their parts. You can download the complete catalog by clicking on the Google SketchUp icon at the top of the page.
      http://www.osbornewood.com/cad-drawings.cfmTo be fair many of the molding manufacturers provide 2D profiles of their products that are easily extruded with the FollowMe tool in SketchUp. But for the non-repeating profiles like dentils and rope you need a long 3D drawing. Paul

      1. JMadson | Jan 29, 2008 07:48pm | #7

        Thanks for posting that link.

        Two questions...

        One, do you know if the file names match up to item numbers in the catalog?

        Two, how come when I import the files into Sketchup, the scale is off by about a fact of 10? The table legs show up as 3 feet wide.

        Joe 

        1. webted | Jan 30, 2008 03:30am | #8

          Hi Joe:You might already be familiar with this, but Gary Katz has put a lot of Sketchup tutorials on his site:http://www.garymkatz.com/charts_drawings.htmlThere's a page of 2D molding details about halfway down the page. You have to scale them, attach them to your drawing and then use the "follow" tool to get them into 3D. His "drawing a bookcase" tutorial might be helpful. -t

          1. JMadson | Jan 30, 2008 04:51am | #9

            Thanks, I've actually watched some of his videos before. Really good. Much better than the tutorials that come with Sketchup.

            I'm just trying to figure out what happens to the .dwg files from the recommended site when I import them into Sketchup. I have both AutoCAD and Sketchup and they open up to scale in AC but way out of wack in SU.

            Joe

              

        2. user-54383 | Jan 30, 2008 06:47am | #10

          >> Two, how come when I import the files into Sketchup, the scale is
          >> off by about a fact of 10? The table legs show up as 3 feet wide.It's probably because the component being imported is in inches scale and the model your importing into is in feet (or the other way around). The scale factor is probably 12, not 10. If you select Model Info on the Window menu, then look at the Units section, the Fractional Format will have the major dimension as inches. Architectural will be Feet & Inches. Which ever one your model is, switch it to the other then try importing the files.Alternatively, you can use the Scale tool to reduce by .083333 (1/12)Eric

          1. JMadson | Jan 30, 2008 05:04pm | #11

            Duh, when you import the .dwg file, there's an option button where you can select the units to download in. I was using feet instead of inches. thanks. 

        3. 789456123 | Jan 30, 2008 10:15pm | #12

          Yes the filenames are the part numbers.

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