Worked as a Framer and Never heard someone say when Framing walls….
Hey the Walls Plumb!.
Have heard.
Nail It!!.
Its closer then a Kitty cats hair!.
Close enough for the girls i go with!.
Looks Good!.
GOOD!!!..
Yeah!..
Which was the good side of this level Again??.
Looks good from here!.
We are not building Pianos today!.
Its not My house!.
Cant see it from a airplane !.
The siders and trimmer will fix it up!..
Just eye it!.
I may be missing a few;]
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Looks good from my house!
Looks good from my house!
I had a guy say that on my job once.
I sent Him home & told him to "Email me with how it looks from his house".
He did, then he got PO'd when he found out I didn't pay him for that time.
The union told me I can't do that, I asked them where in the rules that it says I can't.
good enough for Goobermint work..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Haha! Why do unions always stick up for the idiots! That line is a running gag between a buddy and me when we are building, if some subtrade is around they look at us like we are idiots then laugh with us!
I stick up for union brethren, but I am also the first to call a member out on crappy craftsmanship.
I have a safety orange T shirt that says "I'm union cause I'm the best what's your excuse" on the back.
I wore that to a union meeting, most members loved it but management was disgusted----- go figure.
I pray the union never gets to my part of the country, there are enough beaurocratic buttholes flushing my money down the toilet while getting rich without having more of them on my job!!
It goes in cycles, & probably before you retire you will see more unions in SC than you do now.
If Boeing's 787 plant2 stays in SC it will be union eventually.
Biggest problem with unions they have a tendency to attract those that just want to be a drone & drag down those that work hard.
To be totally Pc ,one must now say "An ocean rabbit" instead of a "C-hair".... think about it.....
And I prefer to build better than plumb.
"If 'tis to be,'twil be done by me."
And I prefer to build better than plumb.
You sure you want to set the bar that high?
I build pretty well <GD&R>
Yeah, I'm just afraid of the disease called entitlement spreading through residential construction around here and dragging us all down.
Bill - I'm with you. I can't stand the "good enough for government work" mentality. Probably because I'm the one who is held responsible for the overall outcome of the project. All trades included. Last week I had a full page punchlist from a HO - and 75% of it was nit-picky ridiculous stuff. Half it it could have been avoided though. Sure I can usually just call a sub, but often it is easier for me just to tighten the trap than call the plumber (for example). Besides, how many framers have been called because an interior door didn't work properly?
Still, you gotta be able to joke around some on the jobsite.
Also, experience tells us what is good enough. That's one of the major things that building novices are missing. They are usually too loose or too tight. Specifically, for example, when checking behind my framers the only think I put a level on is the door openings. I want the jacks plumb.
Joking aside, I prefer stuff like "that is really close" and "it won't be a problem".
The "can't see it from my house" guys need to have a few 2 or 3 hour walkthroughs with homebuyers and their unreal estate agents.
"Good enough for the girls you go with""Perfect!" to which we respond, "There's that P-word again
Joking is great on a jobsite as it relieves tension, but we all have been around long enough to recognize the tone of the comment.
For example right now on my project would have been laid of months ago, but if it weren't for stupid plumbers i would have nothing to do. about 90% of my work right now is fixing mistakes by other in my trade.
If it were any closer, it would be that much off!
Hold it there.
peace,
Casey
where i live, for years we've said "can't see it from the queensway" (highway that runs through the center of town.)then a guy i know got a job as the super at a building right beside the queensway. so now, everything he does...
I like messing with my Brother from time to time. Or most of the time. Or maybe just when I'm awake.
Back when I helped build his garage I often told him something was "Good enough for who it's for".
As we were wrapping up I got a drywall job for a friend. When I mentioned that to my Brother he asked "Are ya gonna use that good enough for who it's for BS on him"?
I said "Heck no!..........I *like* him."
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Hey, while I'm on a roll here - Who was it here on BT that use to say "Better 'n plumb"?
Who was it here on BT that use to say "Better 'n plumb"?
Seems it was a story about a steeple when I first heard it, Jeff Buck?
Long ago for sure.
Joe H
Believe it or not, advanced search found it. March 1999
*R JYou might be able to do plumb, but can you dob better'n plumb??Story around town amongst those that chew on such things about a couple of guys framing the local church steeple, circa 1950(?). Lead framer set up some portion of the framing and had his helper climb down to ground level and scope it out (don't ask, the story doesn't refer to plumb bob's or sticks. . . or speed squares). . . when asked by the lead man if it was plumb, the dogsbody shouted back that it was "better'n plumb". . . work progresses through the day, come quittin time the lead man climbs back down to earth and checks out his work only to discover (did ya guess?) that his steeple was seriously askew (don't ask you'll wreck a good story). . . starts in to rantin at the helper who calmly replied, "I told you. . . it was better'n plumb". One supposes that a tilt to the left was 'better' and one to the right was . . . 'lesser'.Whole place burned down before my time around here so I can't verify the details!!!
Joe H
My father in law (God Rest his Soul) was fond of saying
give me a skooch or
half a skooch
he'd interchanged that with frogs hair
but then again when he'd jerry rigg something he'd say he used some Akem Plucky on it unless he was really doing a bang up job then he wanted Super Plucky.
He was a great guy that I miss terribly.
"give me a skooch"
More often said 'skowsh' - comes from 'skoshi' (a little bit) in Japanese carpentry.
Jeff
Reminds me of a guy who asked me "which end is out of plumb?"
On framing: "It's nothing a good drywaller can't fix."On wonky foundations: "It'll follow you all the way to the ridge.""Hand me the BFH.""Move it just a **** hair." (terribly misogynistic)View Image
a couple of em for the saw man:Cut a fuzz. or scare it for me.
My dad always said "A man on a galloping horse won't ever notice".
HEY!!!
you said you would never mention that...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Its not gonna be on TV!
wookie
Framer to helper who's holding the level: Is it plumb yet?
Helper: No, not yet.
Framer: (nudges the frame) Is it plumb now?
Helper: Not quite.
Framer: (nudges again) How about now?
Helper: Well, now it's too plumb.
We ain't building no church!
Can't see it from my house
we ain't makin' no clocks
are a few I remember. . . .
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From my tract days 32 short years ago in sunny SoCal piecing out Plumb and Line as a young apprentice with Ken and Herb Nation aka the Arkansas Wildcats. I would ask "Is it good?" They would answer "Son that looks just like socks on a rooster" or "Caulking and paint makes what she ain't boy, nile it."
Edited 11/10/2009 5:47 pm by framerboy
Fits like sox on a rooster, haven't heard that in 20 years.
Joe H
Looks good from my bank
"thats the way they do it in Madawaska"
I know I'm gonna stir up a Maine-iac
I once worked for a guy who wanted all of the walls to be plumb bobeb. Not with a level, but a plumb bob. So we just would say Bobbit. That was back when some guy named Bobbit lost something on the freeway, that had been severed by his wife, and had to go get it and have it sewed back on. It was funny back then. Not for him though.Was it Henry Bobbit?
"straight up and down in the world."
First carpenter: "Is that corner plumb?"
Second guy: "Is the floor level?"
First guy: "Yeah, sure."
Second guy: "Is the wall square?"
First guy: "Of course it's square".
Second guy: "Then it ain't gettin' any plumber. Nail it".
Edited 11/11/2009 2:55 am by Hudson Valley Carpenter