Ok, maybe not that bad, but whew..I hate oak shakes.
Here is the next to last day of Perryville. I will have the comb ridge on tomorrow..
All in all about 16 sq. with appraximately 600 shakes per sq.
Today, the contractor actually pre culled the worst and trimmed some to give me better /wider shakes. When they are 2 or 3 inches @ 6” to the weather, it takes all day to nail a sq.
The pic with the completed roof ( look for my blue van in front) is the one Imerc spent a day on with me last fall. It was sprayed with a repellent of some kind.
Dale ( from Greencu’s team) did the crickets and counter flashing on the chimnies and will hang gutter tomorrow as well.
All drip edge, and flashings are lead coated copper, bent up by the G man.
If I never see these things again, it’ll be too soon..splinters from hell, and hatchet city on 40% of them..the guy that supplied them was a moron and needs a hatchet ‘tween the eyes.
enjoy
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You know you LOVE it, and so do I.
Lady wanted me to run some painted crown today into some stained.
I told her, "Although I fully support a woman's right to choose, I do not perform abortions for carpenter wages."
People's dreams are made out of what they do all day. The same way a dog that runs rabbits will dream of rabbits. It's what you do that makes your soul, not the other way around.
- Barbara Kingsolver
LOL..
I keep telling myself "if it was EASY , anyone could do it"
2 pair of Carhatts wore out..5 stiches in my hand, my knees are like rusty hinges..but yer right..I do love it.
The scenery there is sweet, the river is right below me ( with baby ducks) and the GC is the kindest, gentlest, and SLOWest I have ever met..
It is an hour and a half drive , so my actual roofing is limited to his hours..I guess I avg. 7 on the roof.
These things cost 775.00$ a sq.!!!!! I dunno about that logic, if they were all white oak as specced, I might be able to understand..but a lot were red or swamp oak..I guess maybe 15 yrs. tops before weather takes effect adversly.
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I keep telling myself "if it was EASY , anyone could do it"
2 pair of Carhatts wore out..5 stiches in my hand, my knees are like rusty hinges..but yer right..I do love it.
The scenery there is sweet, the river is right below me ( with baby ducks) and the GC is the kindest, gentlest, and SLOWest I have ever met..
It is an hour and a half drive , so my actual roofing is limited to his hours..I guess I avg. 7 on the roof.
These things cost 775.00$ a sq.!!!!! I dunno about that logic, if they were all white oak as specced, I might be able to understand..but a lot were red or swamp oak..I guess maybe 15 yrs. tops before weather takes effect adversly."
I have to admit, I'm jealous. I average about 1 asphault shingle(usually for a friend, beer as payment) roof a summer to remind me why I don't do them anymore. I never get the phone call for any cool roofing jobs. Not that any really exist in Pittsburgh anyway.
Looks sweet.
Thats purdy cool.
Do you have to salt those every year?
-zen
salt???????
I dunno..I just whack em on.
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Your not drinkin' that asian beer with the formaldehyde again, are ya'?
People's dreams are made out of what they do all day. The same way a dog that runs rabbits will dream of rabbits. It's what you do that makes your soul, not the other way around.
- Barbara Kingsolver
thats right, I gotta alter that..it was all formaldehyde and actifed induced.
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Keep On Pushing - The Imperials
written by Curtis Mayfield
Keep on pushing
I've got to keep on pushing (mmm, hmm)
I can't stop now
Move up a little higher
Someway, somehow
'Cause I've got my strength
And it don't make sense
Not to keep on pushin'
Chorus:
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Keep on pushin'
Now maybe someday
I'll reach that higher goal
I know that I can make it
With just a bit of soul
'Cause I've got my strength
And it don't make sense
Not to keep on pushin"
Now look-a look (look-a look)
A-look-a yonder
What's that I see
A great big stone wall
Stands there ahead of me
But I've got my pride
And I'll move on aside
And keep on pushin'
(repeat chorus)
Coda (repeat to fade)
People's dreams are made out of what they do all day. The same way a dog that runs rabbits will dream of rabbits. It's what you do that makes your soul, not the other way around.
- Barbara Kingsolver
Looks good Sphere.
Just out of curiosity, why'd the owner go for oak shingles? Pretty short life span for a pretty fancy price.
Really pretty countryside, from what I saw in the pix.
Regards,
The "owner" is the town of Perryville, KY and the dept of Transportation..the architect called for the oak shakes for the restoration to what was there circa the Civil War.
This is a part of the revitalization of a town often overlooked..one of the worst battles occured there, something like 20K killed in a day and a half of battle.
This building and the other were used as field hospitals..well, the whole town was actually..as was MY house.
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They used our church for their stable and burnt the pews.People's dreams are made out of what they do all day. The same way a dog that runs rabbits will dream of rabbits. It's what you do that makes your soul, not the other way around.
- Barbara Kingsolver
You going to the reeanactment this year?
Who Dares Wins!
Oct. 17th?
I dunno, they might shoot me. I am from Pa, ya know. LOL
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We'll dress you in disguse.
Who Dares Wins!
Aren't they going to need somebody to dress up looking like the wrong side?
I can see it now only one person dressed in blue with all that gray pointing rifles and cannon at him.
DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.
Wasn't Kentucky Union?
bobl Volo, non valeo
Baloney detecter
From what I can surmise..KY was about 50/50..or sorta neutral.
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That makes sense, then. I'd wondered.Thanks,Leon Jester
What's that under the skip sheathing?
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1/2" ply with 30lb felt. The rafters are original to the 1800's. The old roof was cedar from the 1900's sometime installed right on the ply and rotted badly.
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So bottom to top: ply, felt, rafters, skip sheathing, shakes?FWIW I see a fair number of house with skip sheathing, many with the original cedar shingles (not shakes) still on as the bottom layer. (Boy, those roofsa look good!)Never seen that set up.
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No..it is rafters, ply, felt, skip sheathing..shakes.
The skip has channels for air flow..IE..not a continuous strap rake to rake.
The felt was more of a temp. dry in while ..(whats the past tense for "shake"? Shook?) I "shook it"...LOL
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Shake felt ?
I did a skip-sheathed roof finish one time in cedar shakes, and used the felt-paper-interleave method. Did your architect not want the felt?
I did that on the last cedar roof this winter, but in this case it was not called out by the arch.
The felt was at 15" for a 7.5" exp.with 24" shakes. These are 19 -20" shakes @ 6" exp.
I think the archy has a screw loose just for calling for these.
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Back in the 70s, I think, a series of books called "Foxfire" came out of a high school writing class project. Under the tutelage of the teacher, student writers in and around the mountain country of Rabun Gap, in northern Georgia, wrote articles that spoke of the mountain folk of the region, and all their crafts and practices. Rabun Gap is in the southern reaches of the Smokies, down where the Appalachian trail has its southern terminus.
There was a lot of great stuff on log work. Hewing, squaring, notching, and everything else related to log house building.
I recall in particular, a great in-depth article on making roof shakes using a mallet and froe, then roofing a barn with them. The wood used was oak, of course.
I have the entire series..I lived in Franklin, NC just across the line from Rabun Co, Ga...I know plenty of old timers done there.
The banjo player from "Deliverence" lived in Clayton GA..The hotel where everyone stayed is in Clayton..Burt has a house in Highlands-Scaly Mtn area..I worked in it.
Sadly, Elliot ( the author) was popped for molesting the students..
Rabun Gap school is now a private high dollar acadamy..one of my best buds has a daughter attending there.
I spent the last ten yrs all around there..but the influx of Floridians, got to be too much for me.
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Oh..BTW. I worked a summer at Colonial Williamsburg..we made clapboards from 6' white oak billets. I made my froe from a truck leaf spring, the glut ( mallet or maul) was a hickory tree about 6" diam. for the head, with a 2" handle hewed from the same.
all I can say is, it was good work.
These shakes were riven ( or split) from Yard tees, not good saw logs..on a log splitter..WRONG.
No attn. paid to grain or anything..just split like fire wood real thin. I had many over an inch thick and many 3/16th thin..a well riven shake has no taper ( unless yer REAL good and do it by hand) but at least is a consistant 1/2".
I belive it would take me a day to rive a square, if I had a decent log. With a log splitter, maybe a half again as much, but there is really no wasted movents of the stock when doing it by hand..a log splitter just fools you into thinking that it will make a shake, when it ought to be burnt.
A proper shake is all quarter grain, or radially split..a log splitter is much like a saw, it ignores the grain.
Um..I think I know more than I want to about these things..LOL
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You know I know what yer goin' through.....over 40 sq here and green shingles to boot....about a hundred pds a bndl....it so suckedd.
Some dayz were good others I wanted to pull the little hair I have left outta my head.
YA get really sick of it.
Thank Krishna that its over with now.
Looks great what you've done bro....keep on truckin'
Be well
Yer bud in "space" and time
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The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
Wow! Although... I think I'd rather have copper on the roof and mill the white oak for trim in the house.
Don't know what swamp oak is, but I wouldn't think red oak would last very long up there, unless they have a super mild climate.
But I guess yours was not to reason why...
jt8
It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb
Edited 5/5/2005 11:47 am ET by JohnT8
Being as there are likely a hundred OAKS..if it ain't Red, White , Pin, or Live oak..I call it swamp oak..
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