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splitting bottom plate

Taylor | Posted in General Discussion on October 11, 2004 03:47am

So I’m almost finished retrofitting a 2×6 wall (for DWV) pipe on a 2×4 wall with plaster behind when…I notice the bottom plate is splitting vertically…. This used to be a doorway, so I can see the splits on the ends of the bottom plate either side of the ex-doorway. On one side, the split has moved all the way up the height of the plate…

So before I do something only a DIY-er would think of, what next? There are 3 studs sitting on the bottom plate either side of the ex-doorway (original 2×4, flanked by 2×6 king stud and 2×6 trimmer stud for header that will carry weight of big medicine cabinet). That doesn’t leave much room for tie plates etc. Things I can think of:
– 1/4″ carriage bolt inserted horizontally to hold the bottom plate together…how safe is it to drill a 1/4″ hole in a splitting plate?
– hammer a Simpson mending plate onto the end of the plate….I swore I’d never do this again after the last time I banged one of these things in, but tie plates are too big…..
– ignore it

Possible reason for split: 75-year old house, bottom plates were put down on T&G floor boards over joists. When framing carpenter replaced some joists and put in a joist for flooring at this end of the room, he cut away some of the floor boards under the bottom plate. Not much I can do, there is about 2″ space between new and old joists with plate hanging over that gap, and I cannot get into it….. Eventually new T&G floor will (hopefully) slide under new 2×6 studs and provide some extra support….

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  1. DanH | Oct 11, 2004 11:00pm | #1

    This is just the bottom plate of an interior partition wall? And the plate has a vertical split? Fugedaboutit!

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    artacoma | Oct 11, 2004 11:25pm | #2

    Maybe inject some glue then fugedaboudid. .............Rik...........

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      Taylor | Oct 11, 2004 11:54pm | #3

      Ok, thanks all for the reassurance. FWIW the top plate is *not* attached to the ceiling joists, looks like it's nailed to beam at the side, that and support from studs appears to be all that's holding it up....

  3. Sasquatch | Oct 11, 2004 11:56pm | #4

    If you can get some construction adhesive in there, force it in and then clamp it with a heavy duty clamp to pull the crack together.

    Les Barrett Quality Construction
    1. JohnSprung | Oct 12, 2004 10:48pm | #5

      Aliphatic resin glue, like Titebond, will go into the crack easier.  Leave it clamped overnight, and you have a much better repair than you really need.

      -- J.S.

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    IMERC | Oct 12, 2004 11:08pm | #6

    Open the crack a "fuzz" or as much as you dare and squeeze in yur glue... Apply vacuum to the back side of the slpit if you can... this method will even pull warmed PL Premium into a crack....

    Close the split...

    Clearence pre-drill up to the split in the of plate and use a long deck screw to mechanical the the plate together... These screws come in 6" lenghts...

    Drill a couple of holes in the plate and poor in some soupy Rock Hard putty....

    Fill the drilled holes too... 3/4 - 1" holes is more than enough..

    vigorously ap on the plate while pouring in the Rock Hard...

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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      Taylor | Oct 13, 2004 07:02am | #9

      Thanks, last night I dolloped glue in as best I could (PL400, probably shallow), clamped the split closed (glue was squeezed out :-)) and banged on a small mending plate while I left the glue to cure. I may try your idea of Rock Hard, or I may just declare victory and leave it....

      In answer to someone else's question, it's I think 1-5/8" (old dimensional lumber size I guess)....

  5. Hubedube | Oct 12, 2004 11:10pm | #7

    How thick of a "bottom plate" are you squawking about; a 1- 1/2"...or a double 3" ?

  6. blue_eyed_devil | Oct 13, 2004 03:23am | #8

    Ignore it.

    the bottom plate is basically being held tight to the deck by gravity, along with the weight of the wall. If there is 3/4" gap UNDER the plate, then shim it.

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